The episode continues. Trigger warning for discussion of self-harm. I know some of you have been as deeply affected by this as I have been. If you need help, please keep seeking it. It IS out there.
Please try to distance yourself from this shit-show Sierra. A male narc is capable of a great many inexplicable things and you're too important to the world to be affected by this, however tangentially.
It does make me wonder if the Canadian MAiD echelons will tell him, no, you're having too much of a good time putting others in a distressing position. Somehow, for me, it does not bring up the panic I had when my "trans" then-husband was threatening suicide. The problem I see is the social contagion aspect, and would detransitioners doing this en masse actually throw some shame on the Canadian gender industry?
He's wrong Suicide is the ULTIMATE in self harm, whether by your own hand or via MAID.
That's not to say that suicide is *never* the right choice for someone. Sometimes suicide *can* be the right answer, but it is only that very, very rarely and it's not the answer for him. He has hope. He has a future. He can communicate.
For some people there really are things much worse than death. For me that would be dementia.
Yea i think most people have a line after which MAiD would be reasonable. In that case you know it would be a lot less traumatic to loved ones in terms of being less likely to inspire copycats and things like that or or causing them to think that they could have stopped it if there's some clear and objective tragic circumstance that was truly outside of everyone's control and inevitably going to lead to death anyway. When you do it for mental health reasons then that takes away everybody else's trust that anybody that their loved one might decide to do that. It causes people to question the value of their own life. If somebody just got burned on 95% of their body third degree and there's a 99% chance they'll die of infection in the next week after suffering horribly, I know that that's not to do with me and that there's nothing I should have been able to do to talk them out of it.
Exactly. I even made that decision for my dad. After he lay unconscious dying for 2 days I asked the nurse to have his pacemaker turned off as it was stopping him from dying. I'd want someone to do the same for me. I am, though, pleased that he was his usual stubborn self and decided to override his pacemaker by himself and died before the doctor arrived to turn it off. But I'm sure I wouldn't have felt remorse as it was the right decision.
My uncle's suicide however is different. I feel irrational guilt. I'm sure I could have helped him if I'd known how bad he was, but we don't live near each other and, logically, there's no way I could have known. Even his wife had no idea. So I try and push those thoughts away. But it's exactly like you say, it causes a huge amount of distress and 'what if' thoughts for those left behind. It's not something to use as a weapon to hurt people or to get sympathy.
You can use this trauma to find your place in the world. Take responsibility for what you are responsible for and let everything else go. I was fortunate enough to have a bodyworker who got me to repeat over and over, "I am not responsible for my mother's happiness." Supposedly negative statements are ineffectual, but I did not find that to be true. By the time my mother died (she made a very poor decision about who was going to care for her after a minor surgery), I felt no responsibility for what she had chosen to do because I had offered to care for her and she instead chose my sister whom she could abuse (and who was alcoholic, never a good choice for caregiver!).
Agree. I've been getting counselling for another issue and it has helped me become better at dealing with things outside my sphere of control. When I get a pang about my uncle it's easier now to accept I couldn't do anything. I've never felt guilty about the two other suicides in my family as I didn't have the same connection as with my uncle.
It can be hard when kin make a bad decision, but your mum was an adult and made her own choice. It wasn't your responsibility, she chose her own path.
I was a carer for my mum after she got Alzheimer's and I had to make decisions for her, but I'm lucky that I know she appreciated what I did.
That is lucky. 60 Minutes, a CBS program, followed a couple for 10 years after the woman was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. By the time I saw an update, she was completely out of it, having to have a seatbelt hold her up so she could be fed. The husband had promised never to put her in a home, but he was getting old and wasn't sure he could continue the constant care. I don't think she would have known anyway.
A friend of my mother's thought perhaps my mother wanted to spare me, but I think she knew I would have visited other family members with whom she didn't speak as well as my in-laws. Such a simple operation and such poor after-care, both from the hospital and my sister.
So glad you are getting help! It can be very difficult here to find someone competent.
It can get even worse than not bring able to sit. I've heard that when dementia patients lose their swallow reflex they are sometimes given surgery for a gastrostomy tube. Thankfully I had Power of Attorney and would never have agreed to that. Everyone should get a PoA at any age.
It was getting to the stage where sis and I were discussing whether mum needed to go in a home. I moved in to give her more time at home and stayed for a few years, but she was becoming a danger to herself. We didn't need to make that decision though as she died before we had to make it.
For all the hatred I have for the SNP now, their dementia policy is world class. I was allocated a support worker for a year to help me to help her get everything set up, and she had care workers coming in several times a day at no cost to her. It's because of mum that I'm so angry with ScotGov. I was allowed to ask for female carers for mum and there was no problem with that, but nowadays any elderly women in the same situation may end up with men bathing them.
I despise Sturgeon. We are fighting for our rights not just for ourselves, but on behalf of all the women who have no voice.
I had a physical therapist who told me her mother feared two things: dementia and being in a nursing home. Fast forward, her mother got dementia and was living in a nursing home. I said, "You do know there are choices, don't you?" There was a wonderful local woman who wrote a birdwatching column for the newspaper; she had dementia and as it worsened decided to take her own life next to the river she lived near. If I thought I was losing my mental function, I would definitely opt out.
This reminds me of Meghan Markle’s “suicide” threat (as told to Oprah, Harry’s book, Netflix series, etc.), look how the Duchess has been able to work that angle! $$$$$$$$ and she’s living the rich life in California.
Truly, this is a manipulative shit-show, let Benjamin Boyce and the Canadian government deal with it.
I interacted briefly with this man on Twitter a few weeks ago when he posted about his dog dying. I didn’t even realize he was trans-identifying, I just saw a viral tweet about a dog and responded. But then I read more of his tweets on the subject and my blood ran cold. I could feel the narcissism through my phone. I was repulsed to realize he never gave a damn about the dog and was just leveraging the tragedy (which was partly brought on by his own negligence, frankly) for narcissistic supply.
I honestly don’t understand why anyone actually cares about him: I guarantee you he doesn’t care about his so-called friends! With the world hurtling towards total apocalypse I couldn’t give less of a shit about this person. The only thing that seems noteworthy about this scenario is that he’s shedding light on the disastrous lack of ethical oversight in MAIDs, and of course he may inspire copycats to seek state-assisted suicide if he gets the kind of attention he’s seeking.
I'm just not convinced and haven't been that he's not playing a game. I'm not on Twitter so I don't see all of it. As for physician assisted suicide: Lou Gehrig's disease would be hell.
I have clearly missed an episode or six as I have spent the second half of January dealing with elderly parent issues including my mother who was literally at death's door and being given palliative care when she managed to turn a corner and revive. I listened to the nurse and doctor's explanation of DNR and have had to process death once before it was weirdly reversed five hours later. I have nevrt had any patience for the antics of physically healthy young people who use death as a way to emotionally bludgeon people into doing what they want. I have even less time now. You cannot help these types and trying to is to play their sick game for their own pleasure and your own detriment. The fact this creep is happily wallowing in the idea of maid, is using it to extort goods and services from randoms and tagging companies says to me his motivation isn't anything but greed and grift. He knows psychologically normal ppl are easily moved by proclamations of suicidal ideation. But here is the thing - most ppl who are really suicidal don't announce it to an audience and dance in the ashes of their grief. They just quietly suffer and do it. And few ever know why. Sometimes nobody in their life knows why. It's horrifying and watching idiots use it as self enriching entertainment is enraging.
Directed donation is legal in Oregon, as is death with dignity. If she wants to do this she should give me her kidney. I am thinking about making a Twitter just to ask her. I'd like lucky lefty please.
Please try to distance yourself from this shit-show Sierra. A male narc is capable of a great many inexplicable things and you're too important to the world to be affected by this, however tangentially.
Angry man emasculates self. Needs truck to...what? Restore manhood? Drive off a cliff? Don't give him another thought, he's crazy. Nothing you can do.
It’s for his mom.
Oh, good. Will she be putting his coffin in the bed? For a farewell tour? Wack jobs.
It does make me wonder if the Canadian MAiD echelons will tell him, no, you're having too much of a good time putting others in a distressing position. Somehow, for me, it does not bring up the panic I had when my "trans" then-husband was threatening suicide. The problem I see is the social contagion aspect, and would detransitioners doing this en masse actually throw some shame on the Canadian gender industry?
He's wrong Suicide is the ULTIMATE in self harm, whether by your own hand or via MAID.
That's not to say that suicide is *never* the right choice for someone. Sometimes suicide *can* be the right answer, but it is only that very, very rarely and it's not the answer for him. He has hope. He has a future. He can communicate.
For some people there really are things much worse than death. For me that would be dementia.
Yea i think most people have a line after which MAiD would be reasonable. In that case you know it would be a lot less traumatic to loved ones in terms of being less likely to inspire copycats and things like that or or causing them to think that they could have stopped it if there's some clear and objective tragic circumstance that was truly outside of everyone's control and inevitably going to lead to death anyway. When you do it for mental health reasons then that takes away everybody else's trust that anybody that their loved one might decide to do that. It causes people to question the value of their own life. If somebody just got burned on 95% of their body third degree and there's a 99% chance they'll die of infection in the next week after suffering horribly, I know that that's not to do with me and that there's nothing I should have been able to do to talk them out of it.
Exactly. I even made that decision for my dad. After he lay unconscious dying for 2 days I asked the nurse to have his pacemaker turned off as it was stopping him from dying. I'd want someone to do the same for me. I am, though, pleased that he was his usual stubborn self and decided to override his pacemaker by himself and died before the doctor arrived to turn it off. But I'm sure I wouldn't have felt remorse as it was the right decision.
My uncle's suicide however is different. I feel irrational guilt. I'm sure I could have helped him if I'd known how bad he was, but we don't live near each other and, logically, there's no way I could have known. Even his wife had no idea. So I try and push those thoughts away. But it's exactly like you say, it causes a huge amount of distress and 'what if' thoughts for those left behind. It's not something to use as a weapon to hurt people or to get sympathy.
You can use this trauma to find your place in the world. Take responsibility for what you are responsible for and let everything else go. I was fortunate enough to have a bodyworker who got me to repeat over and over, "I am not responsible for my mother's happiness." Supposedly negative statements are ineffectual, but I did not find that to be true. By the time my mother died (she made a very poor decision about who was going to care for her after a minor surgery), I felt no responsibility for what she had chosen to do because I had offered to care for her and she instead chose my sister whom she could abuse (and who was alcoholic, never a good choice for caregiver!).
Agree. I've been getting counselling for another issue and it has helped me become better at dealing with things outside my sphere of control. When I get a pang about my uncle it's easier now to accept I couldn't do anything. I've never felt guilty about the two other suicides in my family as I didn't have the same connection as with my uncle.
It can be hard when kin make a bad decision, but your mum was an adult and made her own choice. It wasn't your responsibility, she chose her own path.
I was a carer for my mum after she got Alzheimer's and I had to make decisions for her, but I'm lucky that I know she appreciated what I did.
That is lucky. 60 Minutes, a CBS program, followed a couple for 10 years after the woman was diagnosed with Alzheimer's. By the time I saw an update, she was completely out of it, having to have a seatbelt hold her up so she could be fed. The husband had promised never to put her in a home, but he was getting old and wasn't sure he could continue the constant care. I don't think she would have known anyway.
A friend of my mother's thought perhaps my mother wanted to spare me, but I think she knew I would have visited other family members with whom she didn't speak as well as my in-laws. Such a simple operation and such poor after-care, both from the hospital and my sister.
So glad you are getting help! It can be very difficult here to find someone competent.
It can get even worse than not bring able to sit. I've heard that when dementia patients lose their swallow reflex they are sometimes given surgery for a gastrostomy tube. Thankfully I had Power of Attorney and would never have agreed to that. Everyone should get a PoA at any age.
It was getting to the stage where sis and I were discussing whether mum needed to go in a home. I moved in to give her more time at home and stayed for a few years, but she was becoming a danger to herself. We didn't need to make that decision though as she died before we had to make it.
For all the hatred I have for the SNP now, their dementia policy is world class. I was allocated a support worker for a year to help me to help her get everything set up, and she had care workers coming in several times a day at no cost to her. It's because of mum that I'm so angry with ScotGov. I was allowed to ask for female carers for mum and there was no problem with that, but nowadays any elderly women in the same situation may end up with men bathing them.
I despise Sturgeon. We are fighting for our rights not just for ourselves, but on behalf of all the women who have no voice.
I had a physical therapist who told me her mother feared two things: dementia and being in a nursing home. Fast forward, her mother got dementia and was living in a nursing home. I said, "You do know there are choices, don't you?" There was a wonderful local woman who wrote a birdwatching column for the newspaper; she had dementia and as it worsened decided to take her own life next to the river she lived near. If I thought I was losing my mental function, I would definitely opt out.
This reminds me of Meghan Markle’s “suicide” threat (as told to Oprah, Harry’s book, Netflix series, etc.), look how the Duchess has been able to work that angle! $$$$$$$$ and she’s living the rich life in California.
Truly, this is a manipulative shit-show, let Benjamin Boyce and the Canadian government deal with it.
"a mind-altering substance called attention" - Status is a hulluva drug. An heuristic older and more powerful than money.
I interacted briefly with this man on Twitter a few weeks ago when he posted about his dog dying. I didn’t even realize he was trans-identifying, I just saw a viral tweet about a dog and responded. But then I read more of his tweets on the subject and my blood ran cold. I could feel the narcissism through my phone. I was repulsed to realize he never gave a damn about the dog and was just leveraging the tragedy (which was partly brought on by his own negligence, frankly) for narcissistic supply.
I honestly don’t understand why anyone actually cares about him: I guarantee you he doesn’t care about his so-called friends! With the world hurtling towards total apocalypse I couldn’t give less of a shit about this person. The only thing that seems noteworthy about this scenario is that he’s shedding light on the disastrous lack of ethical oversight in MAIDs, and of course he may inspire copycats to seek state-assisted suicide if he gets the kind of attention he’s seeking.
I'm just not convinced and haven't been that he's not playing a game. I'm not on Twitter so I don't see all of it. As for physician assisted suicide: Lou Gehrig's disease would be hell.
It's pure manipulation and control for this man.
Plenty of teenagers on TikTok are doing this exact same thing
I have clearly missed an episode or six as I have spent the second half of January dealing with elderly parent issues including my mother who was literally at death's door and being given palliative care when she managed to turn a corner and revive. I listened to the nurse and doctor's explanation of DNR and have had to process death once before it was weirdly reversed five hours later. I have nevrt had any patience for the antics of physically healthy young people who use death as a way to emotionally bludgeon people into doing what they want. I have even less time now. You cannot help these types and trying to is to play their sick game for their own pleasure and your own detriment. The fact this creep is happily wallowing in the idea of maid, is using it to extort goods and services from randoms and tagging companies says to me his motivation isn't anything but greed and grift. He knows psychologically normal ppl are easily moved by proclamations of suicidal ideation. But here is the thing - most ppl who are really suicidal don't announce it to an audience and dance in the ashes of their grief. They just quietly suffer and do it. And few ever know why. Sometimes nobody in their life knows why. It's horrifying and watching idiots use it as self enriching entertainment is enraging.
Am I a bad person for not giving a shit about this guy either way?
No
Nope
Nah.
"I'm gonna kill myself right at ya!"
He cares nothing for the millions of people deeply traumatised by suicide.
To fucking hell with him, and I wish he'd go quietly.
Directed donation is legal in Oregon, as is death with dignity. If she wants to do this she should give me her kidney. I am thinking about making a Twitter just to ask her. I'd like lucky lefty please.
FYI it's a man so that would be non-ideal but otherwise it might work.