Yes that's almost certainly unlawful discrimination on the basis of gender identity. It's one thing to restrict your practice to people who have had bottom surgery. It's another to say you'll accept any and all trans people but only trans people at any stage of transition. I would contact an attorney as you may have an actionable claim.
I'm not sure if I'd make a good attorney or not but all this makes me want to go to law school just so that SOMEONE is out there fighting this stuff in court. The lawyers who do will get rich helping and protecting people.
many people who go to law school don't have the stomach for doing court litigation but often are happy to work in firms where another person leads the litigation. it's an option.
She gave the game away with this contradiction "Voice lowering takes more than two days, but if somehow it happens in two days..." and "Good informed consent" (meaning she'll be off the hook for bad side effects) What the f?! Shouldn't she say that by the time you decide to stop, after two days or longer, it will already be too late? Thank you, Exulansic, even if you're not a lawyer, you could be the brains and conscience behind a lawyer who took these butchers to court. We'd be right behind you too.
My plan and hope is to be an expert witness and consultant for attorneys as a speech-language pathologist. I would love to be an attorney some day, though my training is extremely specialized to help in another fashion. I am also available to consult with other legal teams who want to prep less googleable SLP expert witnesses and get them up to speed. I've been studying this problem, transmasc voice disorder, a very long time (since before I went to graduate school).
That's what I was thinking, too - "trying something out" usually means you experience it. If T doesn't do anything to you, well, then what's the point? (money to big pharma, I guess, but no point for the person taking it), and if there is an effect...like you wrote, it may be too late to reverse it. It's just all so Orwellian.
Horrifying. I'm repulsed and horrified daily. Greedy, filthy monsters.
Three of us in Vancouver (Canada) just made runs as independent candidates for school board on an anti-gender-agenda K-12 platform. We were detoured and halted at every turn, and we didn't win seats. But people need to do whatever they can to raise awareness and stop all this. Herculean task.
Anybody else read the long NYT article on the clitoris this past Sunday? Fascinating. I've had one for 73 years and never knew this information. It's a complex and easily-damaged organ. And these so-called doctors are damaging girls with reckless, even gleeful abandon. Shame, shame.
The article is like an owner's manual. Many pelvic surgeries, hip replacements, etc. can damage the complex nerves & muscles involved. I imagine "bottom growth" in itself damages nerves, to say nothing of "release" procedures. These poor girls...
There's no way to grow a structure inside of another structure in a way that causes pain that is guaranteed to not impinge nerves and not cause pressure necrosis. Look at carpal tunnel syndrome. They 'release' it for a reason.
i've read this and it's a huge concern. that hysterectomies and tubal can damage sexual response for example. how is one to prevent this, if it's an elective surgery you're planning?
I am so angry, frustrated and terrified at the same time. radical feminist movements have been warning about the dangers of this for more than 40 years, and governments have decided to look the other way, then they will say that they did not know anything, that they regret it (in the best of cases) but they _do_ know. They just don't care
"Why do we have flexibility? Because these interventions are known to be medically unnecessary. " nailed it.
i and many with MCAS-like tendencies have also been "scoffed at" by medical and psych people for reporting medication responses to very low or early doses, per argument that studies show people don't respond until X dose or until after Y weeks. doctors don't understand genetic heterogeneity. studies often conflate diverse individual patterns into one result for use in canned medication regimes.
"is aware of other MDs prescribing them to specific children, yet is doing nothing about it. " MDs are mandatory reporters of child abuse. likely mandatory reporters of medical malpractice [though in the real world, medical professionals rarely report].
Well said.The lengths this DEATH CULT will go to are never ending. Beginning of the end for Western civilisation ,and an existential threat to humanity. Chilling !! 😱😱😱😭🤮💔
2. I have been doing some reading and found a most interesting article from 2014 about Dr. Marcy Bowers and her work correcting FGM (link included below). The article states, in part: “Bowers became involved in the FGM reconstruction surgeries because of Clitoraid, a private, non-profit organisation that helped fund her training in Paris. The organisation is backed by volunteers of the Raëlian movement...” For those unaware, the Raëlians are a *UFO religion*.
Aside from their work in reconstructing clitorises, the Raëlians have done extensive work in the area of cloning. From Wikipedia: “In 1997 Raël initiated Clonaid, an organisation engaged in research in human cloning that was directed by senior Raëlian Brigitte Boisselier. In 2002 the company alleged that it had successfully produced a human clone, a baby named Eve, bringing much critical scrutiny and media attention to the group.”
Yes that's almost certainly unlawful discrimination on the basis of gender identity. It's one thing to restrict your practice to people who have had bottom surgery. It's another to say you'll accept any and all trans people but only trans people at any stage of transition. I would contact an attorney as you may have an actionable claim.
I'm not sure if I'd make a good attorney or not but all this makes me want to go to law school just so that SOMEONE is out there fighting this stuff in court. The lawyers who do will get rich helping and protecting people.
many people who go to law school don't have the stomach for doing court litigation but often are happy to work in firms where another person leads the litigation. it's an option.
Brilliant! Thank you so much for this. These doctors and the therapists who join them in pushing this horrific cult so need to be held accountable.
She gave the game away with this contradiction "Voice lowering takes more than two days, but if somehow it happens in two days..." and "Good informed consent" (meaning she'll be off the hook for bad side effects) What the f?! Shouldn't she say that by the time you decide to stop, after two days or longer, it will already be too late? Thank you, Exulansic, even if you're not a lawyer, you could be the brains and conscience behind a lawyer who took these butchers to court. We'd be right behind you too.
My plan and hope is to be an expert witness and consultant for attorneys as a speech-language pathologist. I would love to be an attorney some day, though my training is extremely specialized to help in another fashion. I am also available to consult with other legal teams who want to prep less googleable SLP expert witnesses and get them up to speed. I've been studying this problem, transmasc voice disorder, a very long time (since before I went to graduate school).
That's what I was thinking, too - "trying something out" usually means you experience it. If T doesn't do anything to you, well, then what's the point? (money to big pharma, I guess, but no point for the person taking it), and if there is an effect...like you wrote, it may be too late to reverse it. It's just all so Orwellian.
Horrifying. I'm repulsed and horrified daily. Greedy, filthy monsters.
Three of us in Vancouver (Canada) just made runs as independent candidates for school board on an anti-gender-agenda K-12 platform. We were detoured and halted at every turn, and we didn't win seats. But people need to do whatever they can to raise awareness and stop all this. Herculean task.
Anybody else read the long NYT article on the clitoris this past Sunday? Fascinating. I've had one for 73 years and never knew this information. It's a complex and easily-damaged organ. And these so-called doctors are damaging girls with reckless, even gleeful abandon. Shame, shame.
thank you for this! i'll look for it.
The article is like an owner's manual. Many pelvic surgeries, hip replacements, etc. can damage the complex nerves & muscles involved. I imagine "bottom growth" in itself damages nerves, to say nothing of "release" procedures. These poor girls...
There's no way to grow a structure inside of another structure in a way that causes pain that is guaranteed to not impinge nerves and not cause pressure necrosis. Look at carpal tunnel syndrome. They 'release' it for a reason.
https://miro.medium.com/max/1302/1*5R8wiAwJZcTPrxhqk8VqlA.jpeg. (clitoris diagram)
Thank you for connecting so many dots!
I believe this is the piece to which you refer. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/17/health/clitoris-sex-doctors-surgery.html?searchResultPosition=1
Yep, that's the one.
i've read this and it's a huge concern. that hysterectomies and tubal can damage sexual response for example. how is one to prevent this, if it's an elective surgery you're planning?
I had a tubal ligation in 1974, laproscopic. I think it was far away enough to avoid this type of damage.
I am so angry, frustrated and terrified at the same time. radical feminist movements have been warning about the dangers of this for more than 40 years, and governments have decided to look the other way, then they will say that they did not know anything, that they regret it (in the best of cases) but they _do_ know. They just don't care
"Why do we have flexibility? Because these interventions are known to be medically unnecessary. " nailed it.
i and many with MCAS-like tendencies have also been "scoffed at" by medical and psych people for reporting medication responses to very low or early doses, per argument that studies show people don't respond until X dose or until after Y weeks. doctors don't understand genetic heterogeneity. studies often conflate diverse individual patterns into one result for use in canned medication regimes.
"is aware of other MDs prescribing them to specific children, yet is doing nothing about it. " MDs are mandatory reporters of child abuse. likely mandatory reporters of medical malpractice [though in the real world, medical professionals rarely report].
There was a follow-up story in NYT yesterday: Six Questions to Ask Your Doctor Before Pelvic Surgery".
Well said.The lengths this DEATH CULT will go to are never ending. Beginning of the end for Western civilisation ,and an existential threat to humanity. Chilling !! 😱😱😱😭🤮💔
Exulansic:
1. I adore you. Thank you for all you do.
2. I have been doing some reading and found a most interesting article from 2014 about Dr. Marcy Bowers and her work correcting FGM (link included below). The article states, in part: “Bowers became involved in the FGM reconstruction surgeries because of Clitoraid, a private, non-profit organisation that helped fund her training in Paris. The organisation is backed by volunteers of the Raëlian movement...” For those unaware, the Raëlians are a *UFO religion*.
Aside from their work in reconstructing clitorises, the Raëlians have done extensive work in the area of cloning. From Wikipedia: “In 1997 Raël initiated Clonaid, an organisation engaged in research in human cloning that was directed by senior Raëlian Brigitte Boisselier. In 2002 the company alleged that it had successfully produced a human clone, a baby named Eve, bringing much critical scrutiny and media attention to the group.”
This is the article I read: https://theconversation.com/the-pleasure-doctor-fighting-to-restore-clitorises-after-female-genital-mutilation-25880
The web grows larger...and weirder. Just in time for Halloween!