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Louise R's avatar

"...from the infant who no one heard..." The child of P & F is a girl, yes? I wonder if she, too will not be heard, valued, and loved enough to love herself. And if not, will there be a second generation of this? Given the self-hatred of the mother, and the example being set in the home, it's a possibility.

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trudie63's avatar

Newsflash missy, you are a woman. You have regret after surgery. I feel for you that you are having such problems. Your surgeons share some of the responsibility for this as do you. Your stitched on faux Penis will not work. Grief has made you aggressive sadly.

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Cait's avatar

Probably not the best thing to call a youth who was persecuted by her govt as a CHILD a joke and a clown and grotesque. I say this as a proud TERF.

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Cait's avatar

You seem to be under the impression I love and live by labels. I do not. I didn't feel like typing out "as a person who opposes the transhumanist agenda in a its forms.

You should watch Ex's video again. Watch the compassion with which she addresses the would-be trans man in the video. See what stands out to you.

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Cait's avatar

Jesus, the only reason I said "proud TERF" was to show that my compassion for the woman in the video wasn't predicated on any agreement with or sympathy for the trans agenda.

I want you to sympathize with a woman who has been through abuse and sought solace in the wrong set of ideas, probably to re enact her own abuse. She needs compassion and love and as ex says, a good therapist who won't coddle but who will get to the root of the problem- the abuse she suffered being "locked up" as a child.

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LeishaCamden's avatar

Compassion fatigue is real

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Cait's avatar

Pretty sure any survivor of the juvenile justice system has experienced "real life."

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paper clip's avatar

well, most of us need help. many never get it. critical thinking can be learned and healthy coping strategies have to be taught. therapy.

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Lynn L's avatar

I'm always amazed by the depth of your compassion.

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The_Cat_Farm's avatar

I, a non-doctor who has experience recovering from surgeries, think she needs way more time than just a year to heal from this before they mutilate her even more severely. The amount of suffering she has been through is staggering and sad. However, I bet if she really looked around, she could find an even more unethical surgeon to operate sooner.

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Alexis's avatar

Yep, I know several people like this (not trans, but they can't deal with political differences/discussions). They will cut you out of their life if they can or shut down any discussion or topic that comes up that they don't want to talk about. They are very fragile people, in my view. They'd rather live in lala land than have their views challenged.

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Mary's avatar

Heartbreaking is an understatement. This morning I indulged in one of my guilty pleasures- Odin’s Men on YouTube. He highlighted Finnyam today and I looked her up on TikTok and saw this. Yes, she called us “motherfuckers” but I didn’t feel anger just sadness for her and her story. I think that what needs to be mentioned is that she’s not going after someone like JT(Odin’s Men) who has 1/2 million followers and can be funny but cruel but then he’s a man. If this doesn’t say misogyny and homophobia, I don’t know what does?

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ColinPT's avatar

i don't see JT as either misogynous or homophobic, and if you do, I think you're misinterpreting him. And I don't think he's ever cruel. A tad insensitive at times, but I put that down to extreme frustration: anyone who, as he does, chronicles this lunacy day-in, day-out would need the patience of a saint not to get a little tetchy and overheated at times. JT does a great job shining light on the gender lunacy, as well as other madnesses, and while what he does is at the polar opposite end of what Ex does, they're both performing an ineluctably necessary and valuable service. Power to both of them.

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Mary's avatar

I NEVER SAID JT was either misogynistic or homophobic, I said his channel is my guilty pleasure and I love it! If you reread my comment- I’m saying that this entire gender cult is all about homophobia and misogyny NOT JT!!!!!

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ColinPT's avatar

Apologies, Mary, I think it was the phraseology that threw me; I should have been more precise and exacting in my reading. So my fault; I'm sorry!

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Gayle R's avatar

I am also wondering if she feels her pose as a man gives her the right to get angry and call us names, versus the enforced "niceness" of women; am also wondering if she is another self-loathing lesbian. I don't recall if there was any discussion about what sex she is attracted to in the clips. Yes! for Odin's Men! He also posts under Ivar Bloodaxe in case of cancellation, which I don't think has happened, but golly! as a MAN, why would it????

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Mary's avatar

Gayle, that’s a great point! I think you’re absolutely right- it seems to ‘slip off the tongue “ for many men and now instead of being a lesbian woman she can use words once used against her, to abuse other women! And I follow Ivar too ( just in case) but I think he’s going to be fine!

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Jeanne A. Smith's avatar

What is the psychological state of a woman who would allow another woman to place her insensate, urine -leaking, rolled up arm skin "phallus" in her vagina? I feel like screaming and running out of the room just writing that.

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Louise R's avatar

Desperate and delusional. Gives new meaning to the term "mercy f--k."

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Mary's avatar

Is there no end to how funny and clever you are???😂❤️❤️

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Louise R's avatar

I live to amuse.

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Mary's avatar

😜

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Gayle R's avatar

I screamed and ran out of the room for you! :)

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Louise R's avatar

Thank you!

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Alexis's avatar

I'm a straight woman. If my male partner lost his penis in an accident or due to cancer, I would recommend that he does not get phalloplasty despite having still some remaining structure they might be able to use. I don't think it'll be anything like the real deal + all kinds of risks so I don't see how a male would be better off with a phallo than whatever is left of his penis after an accident/cancer surgery, and I would not want to interact with it.

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paper clip's avatar

it's very, very hard to say you made a mistake when you suffering from it. but take it from me, it's far better to take that sadness and turn it into anger at who lied to you and mangled you.

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Maria The Hammer's avatar

Where can I watch Urine on the Mound.

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Louise R's avatar

When you're in a hole, stop digging.

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Meg's avatar

the only hole you can't dig yourself out of is the grave!

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Aurem's avatar

Would that they’d actually give an ACEs assessment in those initial consultations with trans-identifying youths. Would that CPTSD was a disqualifying factor and that anyone who exhibited CPTSD was immediately offered free long term (~3-5 years) talk therapy, and then a reassessment if the person was still interested in pursuing transition.

Among all the heartrending elements of this young woman’s story, the ones that struck me the most were that her father’s derisive challenge that she pull down her pants to show what’s between her legs may have become her reason for fixating on needing to have all her female reproductive organs carved out of her and a pseudo-phallus sutured on. Not that she’d ever actually drop her pants in front of her father but the fantasy of one day being capable of doing so must have really motivated her to commit to this path.

Similarly, knowing that both her parents are extremely religious and that after five or six years she finally won the validation of feeling like her mom affirms her trans identity must feel like a hard-fought trophy that she can’t imagine giving up, especially given how so much else has gone wrong and how terribly lonely she looks to be. It makes it even more tragic because one can’t help but wonder if she’d have felt the need to pursue the meds and surgeries if her parents had embraced her for who she is when she first brought this up.

If you want to see this scandal unfolding in the US foster care system (where 100% of the kids have a history of trauma), look at the profiles of vulnerable teens and count how many are trans-identified.

I hope Finnyam does fully heal physically before her next surgery is scheduled, and I hope she’ll find better sources of emotional support than the TRAs during that time such that she may reconsider the phalloplasty altogether. She would likely find much more genuine compassion in the detrans online communities. Oh, how I wish that these trans-identifying or gender-questioning young people would just take a look at what the detransitioners have to say!

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LeishaCamden's avatar

Sadly though, it is quite likely no longer possible for her to fully heal physically

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Exulansic's avatar

From the sound of it she's got a Hedwig and the angry inch situation going on.

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Mary's avatar

I do love that show!

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Mary's avatar

Once again, I doubt it. We’re not the real “ motherfuckers” in this ( and btw, I’ve been called worse) but girls like her whose lives have no meaning other than being part of this new religion can’t let it go. Like all good zealots- they cannot and will not listen to anyone whether we’re being kind and compassionate or not!

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Essy's avatar

Jfc. She has indeed been vivisectioned.

Thank you, Exulansic. If only she realised what a valuable resource you are.

I do think her whole house of cards needs to come down, but what a huge job to rebuild herself if that happens.

I want to pity her. I suppose I do, a little.

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Matt Osborne's avatar

"What the hell is wrong with you?!" I have evolved human heuristics to clock you as female, no matter how much you might wish otherwise. I cannot unlearn 1.5 billion years of evolution, sorry not sorry.

"You don't know what I've been through" I'm guessing this person is deeply traumatized and self-harming as a result? "I am a victim of the state" Yep.

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Matt Osborne's avatar

ADDING. Damn Ex that last minute

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Lupi's avatar

Some of you see anger but what I see is fear. He needs to convince her trans followers that Ex is the worse (calling names) in order not to be rejected from the cult. #WokusDei

This could happen very fast if they think she regrets the operation. I feel very sorry for her; fucked up physical health partly self inflicted and the ones in your community are the ones you fear most. She can't even speak freely in this hard times.

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Exulansic's avatar

There was someone in her comments chastising her for the fact that the terfs were gonna use her video.

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Lupi's avatar

It's a great job what you are doing here. 💜

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Aurem's avatar

The gender zealots sure do love threatening to persecute their own. Is that a form of defensive projection, do you think?

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Joan's avatar

This is the face of genuine tragedy, not yet faced by the women-- is this betrayal ever possible--?

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Joan's avatar

So gut grindingly sad---

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