My partner and I were just talking last night how you can't hire anyone who puts any kind of gender nonsense in their resumes, etc. It's an immediate red flag that their primary goal is to work their agenda, not to do their jobs. We have both experienced this firsthand.
My partner worked with a TIF who went to HR so many times he lost count over misgendering. She also found answering her direct line triggering. At my last job I worked with a man I really liked who one Monday came in in a dress and told everyone his new name was Siobhan (why is it never just Susan or Betty??) and literally just stopped working. But we were all educated on how we needed to be supportive and put our pronouns in our emails blah blah (I refused). A few months later he was dismissed. And then there was "Djuna" who I worked with briefly 20 years ago who would sit in his cubicle and cry a lot, because I guess that is how real women usually respond when asked to do their jobs. As you said doing a favor by broadcasting their mental illness at the outset.
Well, Eddie Izzard just re-christened himself "Suzy." (he says he wanted to call himself that since he was 10 years old, and I was like "yeah, that sounds like the name a 10-year old would pick. Too bad he's now 60-something).
Once upon a time I hired a normal looking college kid who came to the interview in a suit... only to find out he was a Drag Queen in all his free time. Good lord did I learn that lesson the hard way.
this is a serious thing. years ago my partner had to hire someone, ended up with this guy very intelligent but never did the projects he was assigned. the guy, let's call him David, just wanted to be paid to work on his arty computer design projects all day. these things had nothing to do with the company's product. further, he was on medical leave half the time, and it became clear that he had only picked the job for its generous medical plan which allowed him to have extensive electrolysis and other cosmetic procedures to make himself look like a girl on its dime. since then my partner's been through other bad hires as well and has learned more about what to look for in terms of who maybe not to hire. more recently i've seen that David is now on permanent disability for something or other, and has written an extensive online guide to TIMs on 'how to pass.' his path in life-------his 'true self.'
This cheese fork incident just keeps on giving, doesn't it? "America's first non-binary Muslim lawmaker..." So, Islam is ok with non-binary followers now?
My sense is that she’s traumatized and is trying to identify out of her oppression while still being as submissive as possible to both of her patriarchal religions.
Yes, and what's with the apology ? The police were apparently at her locked office door and she wouldn't let them in, and then helped the TIM escape. She should be charged with something! Instead she's all fired up and refusing to apologise.
there's all kinds of Islam. ethnically, and i suspect via social class. we don't know her experience. i know middle class women from historically Muslim countries and backgrounds who haven't had horrible oppressive experiences at all. others whose families in middle east have, but who have escaped to US professional class jobs. this woman appears American Black and I'm not sure we can reliably speculate on her experience.
Her color doesn't matter, nor would any specific ethnicity beyond that if she's an immigrant or child of, hijab is still for women only. It's an outgrowth of knowing which women to rape, the ones covered a certain way were safe and the rest were whores. Modest dress for men does not include and their modest dress isn't about knowing which men are ok to rape. We can reliably speculate on the fact she's still following Islamic law for women because this one doesn't apply to men. Nonbinary and yet here she is still doing the female only thing. Even she doesn't buy it.
did not know this detail about hijab. an acquaintance into history tho notes that mandatory women's head covering is very very old. Muslim, but medieval Christian, Jewish/Hebrew, I know not how far back but it isn't really religious.
Modesty based coverings for women are really about being able to easily signal which women can be abused. So much so that in many societies throughout history and all over the world outsiders cannot wear certain items. In western Europe this mostly ended up in laws where poor women couldn't wear rich women's clothing as a class distinction but hair coverings and lengths were also used to signify all sorts of things, largely marriage, however a lack of hair covering after a certain age wasn't a good thing. Young girls, prepubescent or simply unmarried could have uncovered hair. An older woman with an uncovered head in many places meant spinster/whore and thus target. In most Islamic practicing cultures this means puberty = veil, some put very young girls in it. But it's really all about being able to identify outsiders to target/exclude. If any group says a modesty rule is only about women it's a good indicator that the men will see women who don't comply as whores and they will often be exploited. When men fail to comply with modesty rules the punishment is often just a religious leader or elder family member yelling at them.
The phrase “give me my cheese fork!!” gave me true joy for a while, till I googled cheese fork. They are usually two pronged and would probably be useful to have a grip on if you’re walking the street alone at night. It would make a good weapon, short handled ones can be inconspicuous and fit well between the fingers and the curved-shape handle help to hold the fork as you stab people with the (usually) two sharp prongs. I wonder if there was actual cheese found on this person and what type of hard cheese it was.
I can’t believe cheese and their forks and knives are a common thing out there, or maybe I can.. And there’s no reason to think people carrying them for malice wouldn’t further sharpen/file the points and edges, no one would know. Guess we can add suspicious possession of cheese to the list of things to be wary of. It’s a bit sad that delicious cheese is no longer benign and has lost its innocence.
((Are they always eating cheese or do the carry the same piece around for a few days? How often is the carried cheese replaced? You would be eating it all the time if you’re walking around with cheese on your person all the time, nicer cheese is pricey and eventually there is a limit to how much you can eat (I’ve been there, it’s a cycle of cheese sweats, eating more cheese than you should, weird stomach pains and then more cheese, until you say enough!)
So they released the name of the girl or was it the boy? I tried to find her name, but media sites seem to not release or follow up with the name of the arrested person! Odd?
I answered my own question. Savanna Grace Mitchell was arrested in the video and Austin Ross was later arrested at his home, but Rep. Maureen Turner's office hide him in her office.
Did he get his cheese fork though?
My partner and I were just talking last night how you can't hire anyone who puts any kind of gender nonsense in their resumes, etc. It's an immediate red flag that their primary goal is to work their agenda, not to do their jobs. We have both experienced this firsthand.
My partner worked with a TIF who went to HR so many times he lost count over misgendering. She also found answering her direct line triggering. At my last job I worked with a man I really liked who one Monday came in in a dress and told everyone his new name was Siobhan (why is it never just Susan or Betty??) and literally just stopped working. But we were all educated on how we needed to be supportive and put our pronouns in our emails blah blah (I refused). A few months later he was dismissed. And then there was "Djuna" who I worked with briefly 20 years ago who would sit in his cubicle and cry a lot, because I guess that is how real women usually respond when asked to do their jobs. As you said doing a favor by broadcasting their mental illness at the outset.
Well, Eddie Izzard just re-christened himself "Suzy." (he says he wanted to call himself that since he was 10 years old, and I was like "yeah, that sounds like the name a 10-year old would pick. Too bad he's now 60-something).
His dead girlfriend was named Susie
What? Ugh, no....
Not sure I want to know, but...do we know how she died...?
Ewwwww!
He’s lost the plot.
Long Ago and Far Away, I declined to hire a woman who insisted on being called "Hecate Firedyke."
😂
There you go again 🤣🤣🤣!
Good call.
Once upon a time I hired a normal looking college kid who came to the interview in a suit... only to find out he was a Drag Queen in all his free time. Good lord did I learn that lesson the hard way.
Sounds like a fun story. Do tell!
this is a serious thing. years ago my partner had to hire someone, ended up with this guy very intelligent but never did the projects he was assigned. the guy, let's call him David, just wanted to be paid to work on his arty computer design projects all day. these things had nothing to do with the company's product. further, he was on medical leave half the time, and it became clear that he had only picked the job for its generous medical plan which allowed him to have extensive electrolysis and other cosmetic procedures to make himself look like a girl on its dime. since then my partner's been through other bad hires as well and has learned more about what to look for in terms of who maybe not to hire. more recently i've seen that David is now on permanent disability for something or other, and has written an extensive online guide to TIMs on 'how to pass.' his path in life-------his 'true self.'
Cow cheese? Goat cheese? Or SHEep cheese?
This cheese fork incident just keeps on giving, doesn't it? "America's first non-binary Muslim lawmaker..." So, Islam is ok with non-binary followers now?
Sure. She'll get to have 4 wives, just like the men. Or 4 husbands?
The Cheese Fork Incident distills the insanity of the TRAs into a bite-sized morsel.
Funny. Fon-doo-doo. I'd call them Cheeseheads but that would insult the Wisconsinites.
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
A non-binary Muslim lawmaker wearing a hijab?
My sense is that she’s traumatized and is trying to identify out of her oppression while still being as submissive as possible to both of her patriarchal religions.
Sort of like, she wants to have her cheese and eat it too?
i certainly do! i mean, i'm allergic to dairy but i'd love to have cheese. and eat it.
Great. Like we need more lawmakers without spines.
Yes, and what's with the apology ? The police were apparently at her locked office door and she wouldn't let them in, and then helped the TIM escape. She should be charged with something! Instead she's all fired up and refusing to apologise.
Ohhh snap
there's all kinds of Islam. ethnically, and i suspect via social class. we don't know her experience. i know middle class women from historically Muslim countries and backgrounds who haven't had horrible oppressive experiences at all. others whose families in middle east have, but who have escaped to US professional class jobs. this woman appears American Black and I'm not sure we can reliably speculate on her experience.
Her color doesn't matter, nor would any specific ethnicity beyond that if she's an immigrant or child of, hijab is still for women only. It's an outgrowth of knowing which women to rape, the ones covered a certain way were safe and the rest were whores. Modest dress for men does not include and their modest dress isn't about knowing which men are ok to rape. We can reliably speculate on the fact she's still following Islamic law for women because this one doesn't apply to men. Nonbinary and yet here she is still doing the female only thing. Even she doesn't buy it.
did not know this detail about hijab. an acquaintance into history tho notes that mandatory women's head covering is very very old. Muslim, but medieval Christian, Jewish/Hebrew, I know not how far back but it isn't really religious.
And Orthodox Jewish and Muslim men cover their heads, as well.
Modesty based coverings for women are really about being able to easily signal which women can be abused. So much so that in many societies throughout history and all over the world outsiders cannot wear certain items. In western Europe this mostly ended up in laws where poor women couldn't wear rich women's clothing as a class distinction but hair coverings and lengths were also used to signify all sorts of things, largely marriage, however a lack of hair covering after a certain age wasn't a good thing. Young girls, prepubescent or simply unmarried could have uncovered hair. An older woman with an uncovered head in many places meant spinster/whore and thus target. In most Islamic practicing cultures this means puberty = veil, some put very young girls in it. But it's really all about being able to identify outsiders to target/exclude. If any group says a modesty rule is only about women it's a good indicator that the men will see women who don't comply as whores and they will often be exploited. When men fail to comply with modesty rules the punishment is often just a religious leader or elder family member yelling at them.
"Cheese Fork Trouble" sounds like a great punk band name
My was on a long flight once with my sister, a performer in the bands Geko and T.H.C.
I was reading a National Geographic magazine. My sister glanced down at the article and remarked,
"That would be a good name for a band."
The article was about the
Thurston Lava Tube.
;-)
I've looked at words and phrases thru this lens ever since.
The phrase “give me my cheese fork!!” gave me true joy for a while, till I googled cheese fork. They are usually two pronged and would probably be useful to have a grip on if you’re walking the street alone at night. It would make a good weapon, short handled ones can be inconspicuous and fit well between the fingers and the curved-shape handle help to hold the fork as you stab people with the (usually) two sharp prongs. I wonder if there was actual cheese found on this person and what type of hard cheese it was.
Frumunda cheese? The cheese fromunda his balls?
Oh, how I love these threads 🤣
no… NO! Your balls cheese has ruined cheese balls (but they were already teetering)
Oohhh, NOOooooooooo!!!
WOW, I didn't realize it might be an actual fork for cheese! Well, I mean originally intended for cheese! Yikes, you learn something new every day.
Yes, 2 prongs are more stable than a toothpick for picking up cheese, and 3 to 4 prongs are overkill. Too wide for little cheese squares, I guess.
Yes. I have a fancy-schmantsy cheese knife. There's a utensil for everything.
In many States of Australia, there are severe penalties for carrying a knife of any kind (up to $10,000 fine and/or 6 months jail).
When these laws were passed, I knew many men who began carrying a piece of cheese because it then gave them pretence to carry a knife or cheese fork.
I think that's what these troons were up to. They think it gives plausible deniability for having premeditated an assault.
I can’t believe cheese and their forks and knives are a common thing out there, or maybe I can.. And there’s no reason to think people carrying them for malice wouldn’t further sharpen/file the points and edges, no one would know. Guess we can add suspicious possession of cheese to the list of things to be wary of. It’s a bit sad that delicious cheese is no longer benign and has lost its innocence.
((Are they always eating cheese or do the carry the same piece around for a few days? How often is the carried cheese replaced? You would be eating it all the time if you’re walking around with cheese on your person all the time, nicer cheese is pricey and eventually there is a limit to how much you can eat (I’ve been there, it’s a cycle of cheese sweats, eating more cheese than you should, weird stomach pains and then more cheese, until you say enough!)
So they released the name of the girl or was it the boy? I tried to find her name, but media sites seem to not release or follow up with the name of the arrested person! Odd?
I answered my own question. Savanna Grace Mitchell was arrested in the video and Austin Ross was later arrested at his home, but Rep. Maureen Turner's office hide him in her office.