Also, Jesus spoke Aramaic and Hebrew, which use very clear and consistent male and female forms. It's most likely that the manner in which he addressed women, according to Luke, et al, was the common courtesy of the day. It may be though, that addressing women directly was some kind of break from the Jewish tradition of the time. It seems to me that Jesus had more reported dialogues with women who were not his wife, sister or mother, than say, is written of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob or other male protagonists in Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers or Deuteronomy. Must be interesting for you to have functionally illiterate so-called Christians mock you and defame you. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
I'm an atheist materialist and theological non cognitivist. I don't believe in spirits, holy or otherwise. My mind plays tricks on me and I'm always in dialogue with the far corners of my mind which include reflections of people I've loved and hated. That's sadly sufficient to explain any measurable or experienced data. It's hard to understand how someone could start and stop existing so as a species we invent workarounds to cope with grief and explain why I can perceive when the model works just as well without perception. I have a pragmatic commitment to not adopting beliefs that are incoherent or untestable. Gender identities are on the list of entities I doubt exist in any verifiable way apart from the person's alleged belief in them (and they may be lying), and they belief can also not be proven.
Nice way of putting it, and one of the secrets of life, the mind keeping reflections of people. Our mind automatically recognizes, builds and maintains models of other minds (Douglas Hofstadter almost went far enough in Strange Loops, Karl Friston didn’t go far enough in the mathematics). The most important model we automatically construct is recognizing, building and maintaining information about ourself.
Sadly, the basis for trans is a mind has built a cognitive model that doesn’t recognize the body as self, and perpetually seeks to remodel the body which never feels right because the circuitry to perceive “right self” doesn’t function, an endless dysmorphia that cannot resolve. As people can be face blind, the body dysmorphic are self-blind. Anorexics are always too fat, the integrity dysmorpic will always be too abled, the trans will always be the wrong sex.
I call my view not atheism or a derivative, or materialism, just a belief that the only existence is nature, which requires nor admits the supernatural. No gods, ghosts, goblins, genies, or gumihos
Hey, Ex, to brainstorm, first she'd have to have a brain... It's so bizarre that she thinks that somehow if Jesus came back to life, he'd support telling children they were born in the wrong body. He'd join their crazy "crusade" to provide those poor confused children drugs and surgeries so they can pretend to be in the "right" body for the rest of their lives. Following Jesus' path all the way... WTF? I'm not a Christian, but I know enough about who the human Jesus was to know he'd never support the transitioning of children. Her twisted values and reasoning are amazing.
a love leader like the possibly-once-existent but certainly narrated character of "jesus" would never think that My Father made your body and made it a big old mistake so you have to futz with it dangerously, and indeed for 2000 years no one asserted this or tried to do such futzing either in a holy space or outside of it.
Plague Doctress thought she could debate Exulansic and win? What a laugh. To assume someone is Christian because of a sign that says "no child is born in the wrong body" indicates she doesn't really know what an atheist is...poor, misguided "soul".
she goes deadly quiet when i bring up the butchery. we have 2 close family friends who removed their breasts & parade around as men. they have slowly transformed their bodies with T.
they both have excellent jobs in Elite schools. (NYC) but i know the family histories .. it's not surprising both would want to transform into another person. severe mental & bizarro physical abuse. (locked in dark places, reduced to a starved servant in own home, mother sexually abused her daughter, etc..)
the MAIN problem is the insistence that it's normal healthy brain activity ., to sterilize & mutilate your body.
Again with the emotional, reactive, moral outrage & competitive caring. Why don't they instead of immediately assuming other people are heartless & terrible they instead listen to other opinions & people raising concerns? I'm pretty sure most people would agree that it's worse to remove someone's genitals or stunt a child's future fertility & ability to orgasm than it is to not affirm their pronouns.
Yeah, everything else aside, it’s insupportable that anyone could blithely advocate for “treatment” that diminishes or destroys sexual function in an otherwise healthy body.
I believe the suicide rate is 19X higher post-transition. That ridiculous 41% pre-transition suicide rate used to emotionally blackmail parents and others has been debunked. Has this woman transed her child b/c those people will fight tooth and nail to continue the utter absurdity of there being children who are 'born wrong.' That BS is what used to be said about gays and lesbians. And here we are telling kids that same claptrap.
So-called gender nonconforming kids--many of whom are or will be LGB--are targeted by the 'trans' 'gender identity' zealots for hormonal/surgical mutilation. Sometimes their own parents don't want a gay child so they bring their kid to be transed. That is what Kai Shappley's mother did and she openly said she would not have a gay son. Susie Green did the same thing and imo that is what happened to Jazz J.
Leave the kids alone to grow up whole and healthy to figure out who they are--they don't need to be 'fixed.'
Jesus himself was a heretic from the Jewish faith. Regardless of whether a historical Jesus actually existed, attempting to put a modern context to such a person is silly. People are of their time, some ahead, most not. Clearly, trans people never existed in biblical times, or at least not as currently portrayed, so trying to assess someone's reaction to or opinion on is simply flyfucking. If I recall correctly, however, Jesus' response to someone claiming to be possessed was to cast out the fraud into pigs.
Exulansic, your logic and examples are so good - I am so glad you are confident - you being you. If everyone was as confident and willing to defend their rights to be themselves, maybe, maybe, the progressives would be willing to let everyone live and have beliefs that are different than their own.
I am honestly sorry, especially when a young teenager tries to take their own lives. Almost all the doors of opportunity for their future lives as adults are open to them. Now that I am 57 years old I can't apply to compete in the state beauty pageants to become Miss America. At 57 I can't get married and "begin a family" - the wonderful moment when a wife finds a way to tell her husband she is pregnant.
I really think it is wrong to teach young kids and teens that everyone should do what you want if you threaten to harm yourself is a way to get what you want, is the wrong way to teach them how to resolve your problems in life - if I have a job and I am competing against a coworker to be promoted to manager, threatening to harm myself does not get me that job. What if you are competing with someone to "get" the man or woman of your dreams? Being persistent, consistent, and insistent can get you charged with stalking. Telling the public, "You are to blame if a LGBT young person attempts or commits suicide" - does not teach them that you can be the most wonderful person in the world but there will always - always - be someone who does not like you - even Mother Theresa was criticized by some people. It doesn't help them to believe in themselves in the face of criticism, or, to consider that the criticism against them may be valid. There are times when we consider the criticism of others and after critical thinking, we may decide to change our minds about our ideas or how we choose to live.
I would honestly like to know what other people in this comment section, think about who is responsible for someone harming themselves. I may not always agree, but I am interested in considering different perspectives on things.
She claims you went private and aren’t replying to her anymore. 😂 some people can not accept when they’re wrong. But when they don’t face any push-back, these people are still able to confuse others and spread their erroneous beliefs. Smh
I went private for like a day because I didn't want her minions to mass report my content and lose my account. I never stopped replying to her and she blocked me.
Also, Jesus spoke Aramaic and Hebrew, which use very clear and consistent male and female forms. It's most likely that the manner in which he addressed women, according to Luke, et al, was the common courtesy of the day. It may be though, that addressing women directly was some kind of break from the Jewish tradition of the time. It seems to me that Jesus had more reported dialogues with women who were not his wife, sister or mother, than say, is written of Abraham, Isaac or Jacob or other male protagonists in Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers or Deuteronomy. Must be interesting for you to have functionally illiterate so-called Christians mock you and defame you. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone"
What are your spiritual beliefs? I was under the impression you are an atheist.
I'm an atheist materialist and theological non cognitivist. I don't believe in spirits, holy or otherwise. My mind plays tricks on me and I'm always in dialogue with the far corners of my mind which include reflections of people I've loved and hated. That's sadly sufficient to explain any measurable or experienced data. It's hard to understand how someone could start and stop existing so as a species we invent workarounds to cope with grief and explain why I can perceive when the model works just as well without perception. I have a pragmatic commitment to not adopting beliefs that are incoherent or untestable. Gender identities are on the list of entities I doubt exist in any verifiable way apart from the person's alleged belief in them (and they may be lying), and they belief can also not be proven.
Nice way of putting it, and one of the secrets of life, the mind keeping reflections of people. Our mind automatically recognizes, builds and maintains models of other minds (Douglas Hofstadter almost went far enough in Strange Loops, Karl Friston didn’t go far enough in the mathematics). The most important model we automatically construct is recognizing, building and maintaining information about ourself.
Sadly, the basis for trans is a mind has built a cognitive model that doesn’t recognize the body as self, and perpetually seeks to remodel the body which never feels right because the circuitry to perceive “right self” doesn’t function, an endless dysmorphia that cannot resolve. As people can be face blind, the body dysmorphic are self-blind. Anorexics are always too fat, the integrity dysmorpic will always be too abled, the trans will always be the wrong sex.
I call my view not atheism or a derivative, or materialism, just a belief that the only existence is nature, which requires nor admits the supernatural. No gods, ghosts, goblins, genies, or gumihos
There is no God but Exulansic is Her prophet
First laugh of the day. Thank you.
Yessss <3
Hey, Ex, to brainstorm, first she'd have to have a brain... It's so bizarre that she thinks that somehow if Jesus came back to life, he'd support telling children they were born in the wrong body. He'd join their crazy "crusade" to provide those poor confused children drugs and surgeries so they can pretend to be in the "right" body for the rest of their lives. Following Jesus' path all the way... WTF? I'm not a Christian, but I know enough about who the human Jesus was to know he'd never support the transitioning of children. Her twisted values and reasoning are amazing.
a love leader like the possibly-once-existent but certainly narrated character of "jesus" would never think that My Father made your body and made it a big old mistake so you have to futz with it dangerously, and indeed for 2000 years no one asserted this or tried to do such futzing either in a holy space or outside of it.
She needs to read "The Grand Inquisitor" in Dostoyevsky's The Brothers Karamozov.
Plague Doctress thought she could debate Exulansic and win? What a laugh. To assume someone is Christian because of a sign that says "no child is born in the wrong body" indicates she doesn't really know what an atheist is...poor, misguided "soul".
After yet another argument w/my daughter over this trance circus .. she sent me a study of MRIs which claim trance have the opposite gender Brain.
i countered with "then everyone is scanned & only cross brain people get to trans"
"but that's too expensive!"
and when you bring up the suicide rates:
"it's because society oppresses them"
These statements are LIES. This cult has been BRAINWASHING children, teens, young adults since Nursery School.
this Tik Tok clown is a miserable human & life. i have no doubt she's got a psycho personality & sucks satan's dick.
Does she think phalloplasty is cheaper than MRI?
she goes deadly quiet when i bring up the butchery. we have 2 close family friends who removed their breasts & parade around as men. they have slowly transformed their bodies with T.
they both have excellent jobs in Elite schools. (NYC) but i know the family histories .. it's not surprising both would want to transform into another person. severe mental & bizarro physical abuse. (locked in dark places, reduced to a starved servant in own home, mother sexually abused her daughter, etc..)
the MAIN problem is the insistence that it's normal healthy brain activity ., to sterilize & mutilate your body.
i guarantee that study was poorly designed and interpreted, thus worthless. but learning how to critique science takes time and attention.
Again with the emotional, reactive, moral outrage & competitive caring. Why don't they instead of immediately assuming other people are heartless & terrible they instead listen to other opinions & people raising concerns? I'm pretty sure most people would agree that it's worse to remove someone's genitals or stunt a child's future fertility & ability to orgasm than it is to not affirm their pronouns.
Yeah, everything else aside, it’s insupportable that anyone could blithely advocate for “treatment” that diminishes or destroys sexual function in an otherwise healthy body.
Part of the problem is you have about 100 IQ points over this person.
I $ubscribe to Exulansic on Substack, Odysee, Rumble – anywhere I can. Please do the same.
I believe the suicide rate is 19X higher post-transition. That ridiculous 41% pre-transition suicide rate used to emotionally blackmail parents and others has been debunked. Has this woman transed her child b/c those people will fight tooth and nail to continue the utter absurdity of there being children who are 'born wrong.' That BS is what used to be said about gays and lesbians. And here we are telling kids that same claptrap.
So-called gender nonconforming kids--many of whom are or will be LGB--are targeted by the 'trans' 'gender identity' zealots for hormonal/surgical mutilation. Sometimes their own parents don't want a gay child so they bring their kid to be transed. That is what Kai Shappley's mother did and she openly said she would not have a gay son. Susie Green did the same thing and imo that is what happened to Jazz J.
Leave the kids alone to grow up whole and healthy to figure out who they are--they don't need to be 'fixed.'
Jesus himself was a heretic from the Jewish faith. Regardless of whether a historical Jesus actually existed, attempting to put a modern context to such a person is silly. People are of their time, some ahead, most not. Clearly, trans people never existed in biblical times, or at least not as currently portrayed, so trying to assess someone's reaction to or opinion on is simply flyfucking. If I recall correctly, however, Jesus' response to someone claiming to be possessed was to cast out the fraud into pigs.
Exulansic, your logic and examples are so good - I am so glad you are confident - you being you. If everyone was as confident and willing to defend their rights to be themselves, maybe, maybe, the progressives would be willing to let everyone live and have beliefs that are different than their own.
I am honestly sorry, especially when a young teenager tries to take their own lives. Almost all the doors of opportunity for their future lives as adults are open to them. Now that I am 57 years old I can't apply to compete in the state beauty pageants to become Miss America. At 57 I can't get married and "begin a family" - the wonderful moment when a wife finds a way to tell her husband she is pregnant.
I really think it is wrong to teach young kids and teens that everyone should do what you want if you threaten to harm yourself is a way to get what you want, is the wrong way to teach them how to resolve your problems in life - if I have a job and I am competing against a coworker to be promoted to manager, threatening to harm myself does not get me that job. What if you are competing with someone to "get" the man or woman of your dreams? Being persistent, consistent, and insistent can get you charged with stalking. Telling the public, "You are to blame if a LGBT young person attempts or commits suicide" - does not teach them that you can be the most wonderful person in the world but there will always - always - be someone who does not like you - even Mother Theresa was criticized by some people. It doesn't help them to believe in themselves in the face of criticism, or, to consider that the criticism against them may be valid. There are times when we consider the criticism of others and after critical thinking, we may decide to change our minds about our ideas or how we choose to live.
I would honestly like to know what other people in this comment section, think about who is responsible for someone harming themselves. I may not always agree, but I am interested in considering different perspectives on things.
Who is responsible? The person who decides to harm themselves. Period.
She claims you went private and aren’t replying to her anymore. 😂 some people can not accept when they’re wrong. But when they don’t face any push-back, these people are still able to confuse others and spread their erroneous beliefs. Smh
I went private for like a day because I didn't want her minions to mass report my content and lose my account. I never stopped replying to her and she blocked me.