Bingo! Western Civilization has reached such a state of abundance that bored people sit around navel-gazing and inventing things to be mad about and struggle over.
I sometimes try imagine Amish children doing such navel-gazing in between their farming, dairying, and carpentry chores - then I laugh, because it would never happen!
They are simply too busy with real life to invent reasons to be unhappy.
They're not only busy with real life, they're doing their parents' chores if they are pre-baptismal age (16). I've seen Amish children hard at work on Sundays while their fathers are sitting around on their lazy asses. What a miserable existence, the exploitation of women and children and animals by creepy males.
I see the Amish as the only truly free people in the USA. They are entirely self-sufficient, anything they need they create, from food to clothing to medicines to furniture and housing.
Are you familiar with Rumspringa?
Every Amish teen is given the opportunity to test boundaries, experience the dominant culture, and decide for themselves if they want to join the church and live according to Amish tradition.
Every Amish person has chosen that life of their own free will.
I come from a long line of farmers, mostly Mormon. My father was expected to do work equal to what his father did when he was not in school. I saw my cousins getting up at 4:30 am to help my uncle with the milking if they wanted pocket money. No one resented it.
I've been playing catch-up to my cousins since 2020, trying to learn the gardening, baking, sewing, canning and food storage skills that were part of their upbringing, and are second nature to them. I wish I had a cow, a goat, and chickens! My farm relatives can survive comfortably for years without grocery stores or money.
We are headed into very uncertain times, and those who cannot provide for themselves will suffer.
The biggest bank failure since 2008 happened yesterday. The financial dominoes are falling, and "bank run" was trending on Twitter earlier. In NY Bank managers called the police on customers who wanted to withdraw money. This was yesterday afternoon.
The Amish will be just fine, come what may. How many of us can say the same?
How much experience have you had with the Amish? I can see how from a distance they may seem admirable, but once you know some of them and their ways, not so much.
I grew up in Ohio, where the Amish are rampant. My sister worked with a man who grew up Amish who told her about torturing horses with a group of Amish boys. Even my farrier was shocked at the condition of a local barn that was utterly filthy and where the horses were kept. I spent part of my senior year of high school at a riding stable where the cook was Amish, but she had left because she didn't want to get married and that is NOT an option for Amish women.
If you don't believe in forced sex, in having to "submit" to a man's desire to penetrate your body, I don't see how you can view the Amish as admirable. They put up blue curtains in windows to advertise their marriageable daughters.
Now I live in Maine and we have a large Amish community nearby. They're more liberal -- but also evangelical because the Amish like the Mormons and Orthodox Jews are intensely inbred with the consequent health issues -- but they engage in sharp business practices. My neighbor who is not a sensitive person went to an open house the Amish held and asked me why the women all looked so miserable. I said, "Even the young ones?" and she replied that yes, even the young ones. Well, when life consists of what is essentially rape followed by endless childbearing, constant hard work, and being told how inferior you are because that's what the Bible says, you are unlikely to look delighted.
The Amish are very dependent upon outside inputs and are not self-sufficient. And when you are raised for 16 years in a brainwashing culture, very few young people will have the strength to reject that culture, particularly the fact that they will now be shunned and cannot see their mothers (I don't think the ones who do leave care much if they see their fathers).
It is quite possible to have farm animals and food-growing skills without being a member of a patriarchal religion. My mother knew how to can, sew, bake, etc, and she grew up in a city. I really doubt your relatives survive without outside inputs. No electricity? No pump for their wells? No fossil fuels? No machines made in a factory? No vehicles? No coffee? No sugar? No tea?
Another point about them not being self-sufficient, not really a lot of cotton farms in Amish country and yet so much of their clothing and quilts (for sale of course) are. If they were truly self-sufficient they wouldn't be selling things for English coin, nor would they need to purchase it from outsiders.
The theocratic law and child marriage really puts the kibosh on idealizing that for me. Just remember kids, if your community is keeping you in line by threatening to cut you off from all family, support, food, and shelter, they're a cult!
At her examination, Salem witchcraft suspect Martha Cory complained about the obvious abuses of the court, telling the judges that “we must not believe these distracted children.” But the court was eager to let the farce continue. “You charge these children with distraction,” the magistrates retorted. “It is a note of distraction when persons vary in a minute, but these fix upon you, this is not the manner of distraction.”
It was an event at the University of North Texas - they were hosting Jeff Younger, who was/is in a custody over his son because his wife wanted to trans him. Now he's running for the Texas House, and this video is from an event sponsored by campus conservatives that was overrun with the pronoun police. I'm trying to find the video of the woman in glasses at the front of the room I saw last week of her doing the now very popular thing of just shrieking like a banshee at Younger.
Ok, I can't find the video of the longer screaming and yelling video, but here's just a single scream...I love how Younger just laughs at her. Because...what else can you do, really? https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1499487869009899522
And especially the words of the tweeter (not on the video itself), which are quite misognyist. (Or do they mean simply that men aren't capable of produing that high-pitched noise? I'm not actually sure. I'm a man, but I'd rather not try that experiment...)
I want to try to get it. So the group (band?) Life of Brian and movies (another unsure) made in the 80s and set (before or after?) Jesus' alleged birth. Anywhoo after seeing enough clips mostly from X I am getting very interested. Where do yall re commend I start?
If it wasn't for the policeman in the foreground, I would guess this is a high school classroom--such childish behavior. But I know from experience as a teacher that there are no protections in the classroom for violent and aggressive students, even when there is an IEP (Individualized Education Plan--for special needs). Thank you, Ex, for adding some humor to this pathetic display.
As my grandparents and parents would say, “They don’t have enough to do.”
Bingo! Western Civilization has reached such a state of abundance that bored people sit around navel-gazing and inventing things to be mad about and struggle over.
I sometimes try imagine Amish children doing such navel-gazing in between their farming, dairying, and carpentry chores - then I laugh, because it would never happen!
They are simply too busy with real life to invent reasons to be unhappy.
They're not only busy with real life, they're doing their parents' chores if they are pre-baptismal age (16). I've seen Amish children hard at work on Sundays while their fathers are sitting around on their lazy asses. What a miserable existence, the exploitation of women and children and animals by creepy males.
How interesting that you see it this way.
I see the Amish as the only truly free people in the USA. They are entirely self-sufficient, anything they need they create, from food to clothing to medicines to furniture and housing.
Are you familiar with Rumspringa?
Every Amish teen is given the opportunity to test boundaries, experience the dominant culture, and decide for themselves if they want to join the church and live according to Amish tradition.
Every Amish person has chosen that life of their own free will.
https://amishamerica.com/what-is-rumspringa/
I come from a long line of farmers, mostly Mormon. My father was expected to do work equal to what his father did when he was not in school. I saw my cousins getting up at 4:30 am to help my uncle with the milking if they wanted pocket money. No one resented it.
I've been playing catch-up to my cousins since 2020, trying to learn the gardening, baking, sewing, canning and food storage skills that were part of their upbringing, and are second nature to them. I wish I had a cow, a goat, and chickens! My farm relatives can survive comfortably for years without grocery stores or money.
We are headed into very uncertain times, and those who cannot provide for themselves will suffer.
The biggest bank failure since 2008 happened yesterday. The financial dominoes are falling, and "bank run" was trending on Twitter earlier. In NY Bank managers called the police on customers who wanted to withdraw money. This was yesterday afternoon.
The Amish will be just fine, come what may. How many of us can say the same?
How much experience have you had with the Amish? I can see how from a distance they may seem admirable, but once you know some of them and their ways, not so much.
I grew up in Ohio, where the Amish are rampant. My sister worked with a man who grew up Amish who told her about torturing horses with a group of Amish boys. Even my farrier was shocked at the condition of a local barn that was utterly filthy and where the horses were kept. I spent part of my senior year of high school at a riding stable where the cook was Amish, but she had left because she didn't want to get married and that is NOT an option for Amish women.
If you don't believe in forced sex, in having to "submit" to a man's desire to penetrate your body, I don't see how you can view the Amish as admirable. They put up blue curtains in windows to advertise their marriageable daughters.
Now I live in Maine and we have a large Amish community nearby. They're more liberal -- but also evangelical because the Amish like the Mormons and Orthodox Jews are intensely inbred with the consequent health issues -- but they engage in sharp business practices. My neighbor who is not a sensitive person went to an open house the Amish held and asked me why the women all looked so miserable. I said, "Even the young ones?" and she replied that yes, even the young ones. Well, when life consists of what is essentially rape followed by endless childbearing, constant hard work, and being told how inferior you are because that's what the Bible says, you are unlikely to look delighted.
The Amish are very dependent upon outside inputs and are not self-sufficient. And when you are raised for 16 years in a brainwashing culture, very few young people will have the strength to reject that culture, particularly the fact that they will now be shunned and cannot see their mothers (I don't think the ones who do leave care much if they see their fathers).
It is quite possible to have farm animals and food-growing skills without being a member of a patriarchal religion. My mother knew how to can, sew, bake, etc, and she grew up in a city. I really doubt your relatives survive without outside inputs. No electricity? No pump for their wells? No fossil fuels? No machines made in a factory? No vehicles? No coffee? No sugar? No tea?
Another point about them not being self-sufficient, not really a lot of cotton farms in Amish country and yet so much of their clothing and quilts (for sale of course) are. If they were truly self-sufficient they wouldn't be selling things for English coin, nor would they need to purchase it from outsiders.
The theocratic law and child marriage really puts the kibosh on idealizing that for me. Just remember kids, if your community is keeping you in line by threatening to cut you off from all family, support, food, and shelter, they're a cult!
Totally! I get along with Jehovah's Witnesses, but their shunning practices are revolting.
At her examination, Salem witchcraft suspect Martha Cory complained about the obvious abuses of the court, telling the judges that “we must not believe these distracted children.” But the court was eager to let the farce continue. “You charge these children with distraction,” the magistrates retorted. “It is a note of distraction when persons vary in a minute, but these fix upon you, this is not the manner of distraction.”
Bring us a SHRUBBERY!!!!
heeheehee
It's in your pants
Thanks for stuff like this. This issue is so horrifying that we all need a good belly laugh once in a while.
Ex, because of you my husband and I had a “Monty Python day” and I realized how ahead of the times they really were.
Where is this? What's the context?
See Monty Python, there are several Monty Python movies. British humor, not everyone gets it.
Yes, I got <i>that</i> part. But what's the beginning, with the police and with the people shouting "He!" "She!" "He! HE! HE!!!!" ?
It was an event at the University of North Texas - they were hosting Jeff Younger, who was/is in a custody over his son because his wife wanted to trans him. Now he's running for the Texas House, and this video is from an event sponsored by campus conservatives that was overrun with the pronoun police. I'm trying to find the video of the woman in glasses at the front of the room I saw last week of her doing the now very popular thing of just shrieking like a banshee at Younger.
"Woman"? She's seventeen years old, and utterly immature. How about "girl"?
Yup, true.
Ok, I can't find the video of the longer screaming and yelling video, but here's just a single scream...I love how Younger just laughs at her. Because...what else can you do, really? https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1499487869009899522
Oop, found it! I was searching for "trans scream" but it was actually "liberal scream" :P https://twitter.com/IrishAmerican27/status/1627774572530487330
Is there any way to edit the titles from the video, to remove the stupid initial title "liberal scream"? There's nothing liberal about this nonsense.
And especially the words of the tweeter (not on the video itself), which are quite misognyist. (Or do they mean simply that men aren't capable of produing that high-pitched noise? I'm not actually sure. I'm a man, but I'd rather not try that experiment...)
I want to try to get it. So the group (band?) Life of Brian and movies (another unsure) made in the 80s and set (before or after?) Jesus' alleged birth. Anywhoo after seeing enough clips mostly from X I am getting very interested. Where do yall re commend I start?
Life imitating art.
If it wasn't for the policeman in the foreground, I would guess this is a high school classroom--such childish behavior. But I know from experience as a teacher that there are no protections in the classroom for violent and aggressive students, even when there is an IEP (Individualized Education Plan--for special needs). Thank you, Ex, for adding some humor to this pathetic display.
😆😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What nonsense. They look and sound like a pack of monkeys.
This is glorious.
"He.HE! HE HEE HEEE HEEEE!..[etc]"
Ha hahahahahahahaha.