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Laura Wiley Haynes's avatar

I put this on your other thread-- but my TNBC was ANDROGEN receptor positive (90%)-- eg, fed by Androgens. So think of all the girls with some breast tissue left (common even in radical Mx) taking T...

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Exulansic's avatar

One of my upcoming literatue reviews (already filmed) looks at endometrial changes induced by testosterone. The authors found evidence the endometrium was aromatizing the testosterone to estrogen, something they said only cancerous endometrium does. These girls were young and only taking it for 2-3 years. 58% of them had fibroids or hypertrophic myometrium and most had PCOS-like multifollicular ovaries.

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Essy's avatar

Thank you, Exulansic. Mr Alexandre is a seething mess of misogyny.

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Yvette N's avatar

Of course, because you have nothing better to do than going around making up stories about estrogen and cancer for no particular reason.

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Tumblebug's avatar

I gotta say that filter is SO funny! It makes your eyes look really googly. Definitely takes the sharp edge off of your report and makes it more tolerable to hear. Thanks for posting! ☮️❤️🐾

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trudie63's avatar

Don't dr lily realise men not on oestrogen also get breast cancer???? Oestrogen is a carcinogenic full stop period, I hope whoever listens to erase and others sues them jnto bankruptcy when the truth us acknowledged everywhere by everyone

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Dina's avatar

I had breast cancer due to estrogen. Even after the mastectomy my oncologist warned me that I could get cancer again as there was no guarantee that all breast tissue was removed. On a side note I have absolutely no feeling in my breast, it looks hideous and why on earth do these babies go around celebrating and parading their androgynous chests as a trophy. Good grief I want to slap them all up side the head. Thanks for letting me vent a tad.

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cringechamps69's avatar

Wait, and isn't mastectomy a common course of treatment in breast cancer?

So the males subjecting themselves to estrogen and all its side effects may well end up having their 'breasts' removed anyway once cells go cancerous?

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Exulansic's avatar

Think how gender affirming it would be to get lady cancer.

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Theceilinghasmefloored's avatar

is this why estrogen based hormonal birth control warns women not to smoke due to the risk of breast cancer and stoke?

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Exulansic's avatar

The risk of stroke is because like testosterone and particulates in smoking, estrogen increases the blood's tendency to clot.

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Theceilinghasmefloored's avatar

Right!!! I messed up rememebering the warning drom the ad. The risk of blood clot or stroke, not breast cancer. The ad for birth control would not have said that

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Exulansic's avatar

My understanding is that birth control shouldn't raise a woman's cancer risk significantly due to the fact that it suppresses ovarian production of estrogen, assuming she's of reproductive age.

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Theceilinghasmefloored's avatar

That makes sense. I am on the depo shot, which is progesterone only afaik. I was told it was invented to prevent uterine cancer. I have been on it continuously for nearly 13 years. Not having a monthly period is the most freeing thing thats ever happened to me.

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katansi's avatar

This is worth looking at https://www.pfizermedicalinformation.com/en-us/depo-provera/warnings

Depo was widely used to sterilize indigenous women in the US, for decades before it was approved as birth control.

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katansi's avatar

Iirc it shifts the relative risk for sex hormone related cancers. Higher breast and cervical, lower ovarian, etc., not significant. It also matters oral vs dermal vs local vs sublingual. But of course since Lily Alexandre is a man those facts don't apply to him anyway!

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Barb's avatar

@Exulansic - my understanding is that it’s not the estrogen itself that raises the risk of blood clots, but the oral administration of estrogen. When estrogen is taken orally, the liver processes the estrogen and in so doing creates clotting factors, which raises clotting risks. Estrogen patches don’t raise the risk of blood clots because the estrogen goes directly to tissues of the body.

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Susan Siens's avatar

Yes, when I got a better practitioner she switched me from the small amount of oral estrogen I was taking to a cream to be alternatively rubbed into my arms and legs. That said, once I was on proper thyroid medication I didn't need any estrogen despite having a surgical complete hysterectomy at age 42.

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Exulansic's avatar

TIL, thank you!

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Mary's avatar

Mr.Alexandre has a lot to learn! I took a look at some of his videos and in my humble opinion, he’s doing his faux woman face like an 80 year old nun! Does he really think that all women speak down to each other in a preachy almost sing song way? If I closed my eyes, I imagined Sister Timothy ( the ban of my existence in high school) standing in front of the chalkboard asking me to come up and do some trigonometry for the class!

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Mary's avatar

* bain

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Susan Siens's avatar

bane, just to let you know

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Mary's avatar

Thank you, Susan! Third time is a charm ! And the brain fog is very real 😂😂😂

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Susan Siens's avatar

I'm so sorry you have brain fog! I've had it a bit, usually due to even more stress than normal, but it seems to disappear with rest and self-care.

And I don't know if "bain" is the word for toilet in French! I read a book by an American expat living in the U.K. who had such fun with all of our innuendos for toilets, including the word toilet!

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Mary's avatar

Wait a minute- isn’t‘Bain’ the word for toilet in French???😜🤣😂

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Susan Siens's avatar

I would like everyone who listens to this to read Lynne Farrow's The Iodine Crisis. Dr Guy Abraham (now deceased) at the UCLA School of Obstetrics and Gynecology studied breast cancer and concluded that it is mostly the result of iodine deficiency. After the thyroid the reproductive organs are filled with iodine receptors; most people in the U.S. (95% by Dr Brownstein's estimates of testing everyone who comes through the doors of his practice) are iodine-deficient. If you do not have sufficient iodine, your breasts (and possibly the prostate, the uterus, etc) take up bromine and fluorine, both toxic halides which are everywhere in the environment. Women have cured their breast cancer through use of iodine, though the detox protocol can be complex for someone who is that toxic.

That said, I only care about women. If men take wrong-sex hormones and get cancer, boo-hoo.

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Mary's avatar

Are there any iodine supplements available?

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Sekhmet34's avatar

My gynaeoncologist is unwilling to prescribe me oral HRT to manage menopause because I had endometrial cancer last year (requiring a hysterectomy, oopherectomy and radiation treatment, catapulting me straight into menopause), which was positive for oestrogen receptors and therefore supplemental oestrogen will increase the risk of recurrence. But obviously a trans-identifying YouTuber knows better. The Chosen Ones of course are magically free of the risk posed to us lowly "cis" women /s

My specialist said that if the effects of menopause became unbearable she might consider a low dose for me, but I'm not at that stage yet. I would rather put up with hot flushes (annoying, but fortunately not having the same effect on my quality of life as some friends have experienced - at least I don't get full on night sweats) than go through cancer treatment again. I am not seeking to dissuade women from getting it since it's made a huge difference for other women my age who had a terrible time with perimenopause and menopause, but like any medical treatment, it carries a risk, and these often very young men who think that doping themselves with oestrogen will cure their "feelings cancer" as Ex so brilliantly puts it are putting their health at tremendous risk. And Lily's dismissive "only 46 times higher" is despicable.

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Exulansic's avatar

And it's not because it's carcinogenic... it just makes cells proliferate, genius!

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Mechantechatonne's avatar

The whole video this little screed came from is pure delusion and allergy to facts. Even the premise that most people are interested in their bodies sexually or romantic is nonsense. Every poll on this has about 97% of people saying they wouldn't even consider a transsexual person for a serious relationship. Beyond morbid curiosity, a desire to seem game to at least try things and morbid curiosity, most people overwhelmingly prefer bodies that are at least close to what most people naturally have. "Profoundly chemically and surgically altered until it doesn't resemble a natural male or female phenotype anymore" is not a preference a large number of people have for a partner. If it was, Lily wouldn't have to make a video trying to convince people that folks find him sexy and there wouldn't have to be a society-wide gaslighting maneuver to try to convince people to at least give it a shot. To the subject of this video, the lies about the side effects made this video of his difficult to watch at all and impossible for me to manage to finish even after a few tries. Knowing how many people will be seeing this, have heard some of the warning you and others are trying to get out about side effects and be relieved to find out that they're terf lies and proceed with treatment makes me incandescently angry. This man is knowingly and intentionally harming people just because it's convenient to his fantasy life for it to be true that we're balls of meat-putty meant to be twisted into whatever form suits our fancy as opposed to real living creatures that have an actual set of optimal physical conditions for survival and health.

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Exulansic's avatar

I didn't watch the rest of the video. He lies about other stuff? I might have to go back and make a longer response.

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Mechantechatonne's avatar

The whole thing is a crazy lie-fest. He basically constructs an alternative reality where everyone wants to have sex with him and the only reason people say there are side effects is to try to stop him from being a lesbian. It's all made up to deny how sexy he is, apparently.

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Mistress Mary's avatar

By Mr. Alexander's logic, women with smaller breasts should have proportionally less breast cancer, because "its easier to get breast cancer when you have breasts"... hmmmm. I wish he didn't have 50K followers, because many of those followers must be ignorant enough to believe him.

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Exulansic's avatar

That actually kind of surprises me because it's known that taller people are at more risk of cancer due to having physically more cells that can become cancerous.

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katansi's avatar

I'm sure denial will protect them from cancer in the future. That's how this works right? If you believe hard enough it's true?

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