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Gregory S's avatar

Everyone is always so blasé about infections. What happens when the antibiotics no longer work? Also why does testosterone cause "squashed frog" voice when women take it for cosmetic reasons?

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Exulansic's avatar

My theory is that it causes dysphonia by causing small stretch marks on the lamina propria when the muscle underlying these connective tissue layers gets roided out. I also believe the lamina propria thickens and becomes stiffer at the same time.

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Diana's avatar

Does Robert J Kennedy Jr. also suffer from dysphonia? I never heard that testosterone was good for the skin. I think it's more likely estrogen that gives us females our smooth soft skin. What does "roided out" mean? I routinely get treated with myofascial therapy to remove scar tissue and increase strength and mobility. This treatment is non invasive. THrefore, I get to avoid drugs/vaccines/surgeries. My hope is to completely avoid hip replacement. Go Me!

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Exulansic's avatar

Roided out = to have been subjected to therapeutic doses of a steroid such as testosterone (typically) or estrogen (technically). See also: 'roid rage.

I looked up a random video of RJK Jr. I can't diagnose him but yes there's some kind of audible dysphonia going on. I don't know the cause. In a man his age acid reflux is pretty high on the differential diagnosis list but I don't know his history.

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Diana's avatar

He spoke about the onset of his condition. I wish he didn't have it because it makes it hard to listen to him--and he has so many good ideas about how to reduce pollution/toxins and mitigate their effects on our bodies. Drugs/vaccines/pesticides/fertilizers--all modern ways of bringing nature under our control. But all with a simplistic model that doesn't account for adverse effects. It's kind of like selling your soul to the devil. And maybe you won't pay the price--but the children will. Thanks to Exulansic for giving me a model of speaking my truth and being open to it not being a truth as well.

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Tumblebug's avatar

I don’t have any physical pain, arthritis, or the like, but in 1997 I was in a motorcycle accident and rolled onto the freeway at approximately 70 mph and pulled a ligament in my right foot. I was on crutches and an NSAID for a month, and then went for a series of Myofascial Release sessions ten years later in 2007 with a therapist who was trained by John Barnes himself. Wow! Did it ever change my world. My range-of-motion increased over the next six months to the point where I was as flexible as if I’d been practicing yoga or the like for years! I can’t speak highly enough about that healing art. My circulation is so much better than it was, too, as increased flexibility tends to increase circulation as well. Go Diana! Artificial joints are bad news, and very profitable to those who install them. The profitability to the recipients of these implants is highly questionable. ☮️❤️🐾

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Samantha Lee's avatar

Sounds like a man sucking helium. I wonder if it ever makes them more dysphoric.

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Essy's avatar

They always so glad they did it. Seriously deranged.

Thank you, Exulansic.

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Louise R's avatar

Sorry, these women are at the least not convincing as pseudo-men, and at worst repellant.

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reina's avatar

you’re too kind, they’re more like pseudo teen boys.

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Louise R's avatar

I stand corrected. Unattractive teen boys, at that.

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Diana's avatar

Are they unattractive in their appearance? Many women/men that Exulansic interviews look attractive to me. Some look like men and sound like men. Others don't look at all masculine. The woman/man interviewed in this video looks like a normal attractive woman to me. However, some even though not disfigured in any way seem "disfigured" because they seem so dissatisfied which makes it difficult to relate to them. What can I say? Sorry you are oozing blood! Would you like a tissue? NO NO There is nothing wrong with me that can't be surgically repaired in another year! And I have no regrets, whatever happens. It was totally worth it. There is a psychological sign of trauma when the abused person clings to their abuser because to acknowledge abuse leads to very very painful feelings of betrayal, abandonment. It's that moment when your fairytale illusions are dissolved and the food changes into mold and cardboard. And if you act totally satisfied with whatever the authorities provide maybe you won't get punished for complaining. I have an emotionally fragile lesbian friend who develops huge crushes on younger woman that she scarcely knows. They are mostly medical professionals or yoga teachers, etc. that she meets as she seeks treatment or training. What they all have in common is how inappropriate and unavailable they are. My friend is my age: 81, and, like me, has serious respiratory health problems. Her love objects are in their fifties, married to males, have children--i.e. why would a much younger cis gender heterosexual woman want to devote herself to my friend who is convinced they are soul mates? I see this obsession (soul mate, transformation into opposite sex, repeated surgeries) as similar. It's the myth of a magical transformation that will solve all interpersonal problems and result in one becoming acceptable and attractive--instead of abandoned, neglected, defective. Attempts to label parts of this obsession as pure fantasy are met with anger or outrage or utter distress. In some way this irrational vision represents a version of healing that cannot be denied. Ok my phalloplasty was a disaster--but I'm not going to give up my dream. It's like watching a little child denying all the pain that life inflicts on us and believing she is special and deserving . At times I just want to shake them!!

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Louise R's avatar

Most of them are objectively unattractive. Add the scars, the delusions, and the medical/financial burdens they represent, and yes, they are, to a woman (or man), severely unattractive.

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reina's avatar

this is the same camp i’m in. i used to find trans men and non-binary women attractive because i’m a lesbian who is attracted females (affirmations be damned), but now i just see broken sapphic women who will be lifelong medical patients. it makes me that much more grateful that my female partner and i made it through the pandemic. the dating pool is bleak for lesbians.

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Louise R's avatar

I'm a Lesbian attracted to butch women. See movie "Golden Arm" and check out the tall, strong, ex-military arm wrestling trainer. Very butch, deeply female. Not a man. Funny movie.

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Mary's avatar

Sinatra? Heroin? What was I thinking???😂😂😂I’m laughing my ass off! Got it- “golden arm” as in arm wrestling! Where can I find it?

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Louise R's avatar

Cable. It's a couple of years old. No big-name stars, just really good characters. Very funny.

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Yoshiew's avatar

The vocal fry and the scars. To have SUCH self hatred is heartbreaking to just witness it, much less live it.

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Matt Osborne's avatar

The Pringles pop has killed me, Exulansic. I am deceased

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Terri Aqui's avatar

Perhaps Pringles can step up as a corporate sponsor of top surgery?

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Matt Osborne's avatar

You know what if we organized this pressure campaign it might even work, sadly

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Terri Aqui's avatar

I'm sure.

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James Mackenzie's avatar

These clearly unwell people should not be allowed to self harm medically. The DRs and nurses involved are sick.

No ethical practitioner would involve themselves in this mutilation. 

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reina's avatar

i wish these post-op individuals would stop trying to convince us that they’re happy with their results…the body language and faces always show the truth.

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Louise R's avatar

As must their mirrors.

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reina's avatar

lmao seriously. i like what karen davis says: even if these people “pass” and fool everyone around them, they will never pass to themselves because they will always know the truth.

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Addlecat's avatar

The denial and all the factors that cause and sustain it are subjects worth investigating in themselves! The whole movement is so much like how girls are groomed into prostitution and then also used by the same pimps to promote an astroturf "movement" for "rights".

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Louise R's avatar

Ooh, I hadn't thought of that parallel. Very good.

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What's avatar

Yeah, I’ve been seeing lots of “serious discussions” about porn and “sex work” with male hosts all having the same women on and I’m afraid to watch/listen to them because I’m pretty sure they’ll all just be her repeating what her groomers told her to validate the male hosts and male listeners, and zero consideration of how it all affects women. The women are always an active “sex worker” and advertising their Only Fans, never someone who’s gotten out.

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Louise R's avatar

I wonder if there is or will be any research on the % of trans "women" who go into sex work. Bet it's way, way higher than for similar cohorts of age and race. You read about a lot of them prostituting themselves for the money to pay for their Sex Ruination Surgery. And since the Frankenweens aren't really functional and may fall off, I doubt any trans "men" sell it.

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GenuinelyAutistic's avatar

How was that last video allowed on Tiktok? That's insane!

Also, what is your username on Tiktok, I'd love to follow you on there. Last time I attempted, you were banned before I got any notifications :(

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Nortcliff's avatar

Prince is looking well.

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Dane C's avatar

And there seems to be some convergence in the appearance of FTM and MTF. The first woman looks like Dylan Mulvaney.

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Theceilinghasmefloored's avatar

Detransitioned girls and women often look like TiMs

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Susan Siens's avatar

So they don't mind doing a unnecessary mastectomy on a fat woman, but there are cases where fat people have actual conditions and doctors refuse to help them. One I heard about was the woman had a broken leg and they sent her home and told her to lose weight, did zilch for the broken leg. A second was a man with pneumonia who was told to go home and lose weight, did zilch for the pneumonia.

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Susan Siens's avatar

It's amazing that Exulansic wrote that people see her as low-affect. I love watching her face instead of the sad individuals in the videos.

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Louise R's avatar

She is subtle and expressive at the same time.

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Just another voice's avatar

My husband is like this, he told me women had complained that he is "low affect" but I wouldn't change a single thing about him. He's the tortoise and I'm the hare. I buoy him up, he cools me down. He's serene, aloof and elegant at a party and I am a garrulous spinning top shedding hairpins and napkins in my wake.

He listens to people calmly and you can never tell if he agrees with them or not. I have to stop myself from jumping around in agreement, impatience or annoyance. Over time, I learn to be more like him and he learns to take some wonder in life, like me. We balance each other out.

Everyone has their own way of being.

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Susan Siens's avatar

I love the image of you shedding hairpins and napkins in your wake!

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Just another voice's avatar

None of this is remotely normal. Not one bit of it. I've had four of five surgeries in my life and seriously, I would have been out for people's license to practice if I had gone through anything like this.

They took my heart out, put it on a table and replumbed my body and I didn't go through anything close to this. These people are completely brainwashed. They normalize torture. Doesn't this young woman have anyone in her life who gives a single little tiny crumb of rabbit shit about her?

My gawd. This is horrific.

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Theceilinghasmefloored's avatar

Normalization of medical torture while giving your besties traumatic experience of taking care of you

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Just another voice's avatar

Yes, there's plenty of burdensome suffering to go around.

It's like preventative matricide. Injure enough young women that all women must take up the burden of tending to them. It removes us from the public sphere as effectively as hijab.

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Theceilinghasmefloored's avatar

I feel so nauseous watching this

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Chelsea's avatar

What world do we even live in where people are filming themselves having medical appointments, let alone having wounds drained? Why the fuck is any medical professional allowing that? Why do so many people no longer have the concept of privacy?

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