Meanwhile, he can't stop playing his game even for a second. He is literally incapable of living in reality.
I wonder, is there some sort of subscription service that delivers a load of bullshit to these people's houses once a week? They seem so confident and they all sound the same. And they're all so confident that they are 100% right all the time. I mean, they have to be getting fuel from somewhere.
And yes, at the halfway point it is apparent to me that I need a cat, or a very large bar of chocolate to sit through this with my blood pressure in check.
It's really hard to listen to him. I stopped allowing this kind of man into my life about 12 years ago, when I met my now-husband and realized I didn't have to put up with people who do not respect me enough to even try to see my side of an argument.
He is not trying. He is not giving you any room. He is not giving you any respect and he's not fighting fair.
Now, it does seem to me that people who play these first-person shooter games never do fight fair. That much seems clear. I don't know if that's because they've been conditioned by this kind of combative game to see every interaction as a kill-or-be-killed contest or if the reason they like these games is because they're predisposed to see the world this way. Whichever it is, it does seem to me that there is no path to a rational discussion here. If he ever did or does allow you to have a point, it will only be because he wants to keep you around as a woman he "flirts" with. (which, in itself, is kind of nauseating.) He almost certainly has a sexual interest in Shape Shifter. We can never dismiss the influence the male sex drive exerts over a man's opinions. I would be suspicious of that and wary of his motives. And I would be careful in navigating this interaction because it does seem to me that Shape Shifter's request that you debate him is a red flag of sorts, (although I haven't identified exactly why it raises an alarm for me, it does and that aspect of the interaction hasn't stopped itching at me since the first part of this debate.
I know!! So disrespectful. But its great for her to point out the flaws in his arguments. He is like a parrot trained to say words to get a reward, but with less understanding and self awareness than the bird
As the trans phenomenon as a whole is a product of extreme dissociation enabled by the Internet, it makes sense that its champion would be a semi-conscious gamer guy.
I actually really appreciated watching this. I think his arguments are points that many of us would be on the receiving end of if engaged in a conversation about the trans issue, so your counter arguments show us how we can respond in turn. Thank you for doing this!
Listening to this mental midget argue with you using stupid talking points, cutting you off, and condescending to you makes my blood boil. You run circles around him intellectually, but I'm sure he doesn't realize it.
"We see this over and over again in the literature..." Bullshit has he read any literature. He feels like he knows the science because he's spent years hearing trans stories on Twitter. He never references a study, comes up with a specific example or makes a single point that isn't about the neublous feelings of some nebulous group of people that he never offers one example of.
Who is this creature playing games in mom’s basement? I know that I’m repeating myself but it’s important- my son will be 25 this year. I raised a very effeminate boy who played with dolls and loved his nails painted pink. Has this twit ever met a girl who likes her hair short and loves baseball? Or a boy like my son? I doubt it. He’s going along with the party line blah, blah, blah and giving absolutely no thought to any of Exulansic’s points. This fight is all about misogyny and homophobia and allowing children to be themselves!!! No one is born in the wrong body... thanks for letting me vent!
Aha, he’s a member of the cult! Does having a “non binary” partner mean that he’s really a gay man? And while I’m on the subject, can someone please tell me what non binary really means? Is it as simple as some days I “feel “ feminine and some days I “feel “ masculine? Whatever any of that means??? Remember the song- “feelings, nothing more than feelings...”
He has no conceptual understanding of psychological child devp at all. The children he refers to are as much a figment of his imagination as the possibility of changing sex.
He should never be allowed within 500 metres of any real child under 16, he's a literal danger.
One of the things I really like that you do is emphasize how bad depression and anxiety really is and how it affects a person. As someone whose been mentally Ill for a very long time it’s refreshing to hear you speak on how my struggles are real, they matter, and that it is a disability. Depression really can change memories & memory recall. I have to do excersizes that stimulate my brain and help me recall information because when I’m unstable I really can’t remember anything but the pain & how much I want to escape it.
I literally need to force myself to remember I have people who care about me by writing their names down. When I am suicidally depressed I forget I have a mom. A dad. A brother, a family.
I really relate to this. These folx act like they care about mentally ill people but they seem more interested in pretending there's no illness and therefore no implications of illness. They fear judgment and want control. My father had a brain injury when I was a child. I'm beyond capable of loving a person and not judging the person while simultaneously judging the implications of the reality of a loved one's limitations constantly for everyone's well being. Trans activists are ableist though in my experience. They really do not want to think about people with diminished capacity and what kind of support needs they have including the need to be protected from predatory medical providers and others who would take advantage of their impaired judgment whether the impairment is temporary as in anxiety and depression or permanent as in an injury. Although even a permanent injury is treatable and judgment can improve with treatment. But treating such an injury like I do for a living requires being able to model the person's deficits and confront them and that's not something that a lot of people want to be acceptable. We're just supposed to feel like we're ableist if we recognize that another person is so ill they want things that a healthy person simply would not want due to understanding how bad it would end up. We're supposed to believe it's just a difference in preference to not want some guy to Jack O'Lantern your vagina so that you could stand to pee because you believe that this will prevent hate crime. Like what about that train of logic says I'm mentally well enough to consent to have my labia sewn together?
That’s what I love about your content. It’s not pessimistic, it’s realistic. TRAs definitely are ableists, and the whole mental health acceptance movement feels that way too. I mean, we shouldn’t judge people who are mentally ill. But it’s not something you should want to be, and it’s also “not a big deal” either. People who are mentally Ill need real psychological help, potentially use of medication like I do. It’s not a funny, quirky thing. It gets ugly, real ugly. Depression takes you to places most wouldn’t understand unless they also suffered.
No idea who this guy is, but I could only make it 50% of the way through this because of how much he interrupts you. You let him waffle on saying things like he 'sees no problem' with children being treated as the opposite sex, but he can't even let you finish an answer to his stupid statements. The bottom line is, he doesn't care - it's literally not his problem so he doesn't care. No idea who he is, not saying he's a bad person or generally cruel, but gender ideology is not going to impact him at all, as a straight white man, so what.
To assess whether child has an understanding of something, the assessor should have a deep understanding of the child's level of fluency in the language and their experience of life.
An example of this: before my daughter started school, because she was only just four years old, the educational psychologist had to assess her readiness. There were lots of tests - identifying pictures of things etc. Then we came to identifying a commonality of a grouping. We got to pictures of a piano, a violin and a clarsach (a small folk harp which is common here). She looked and immediately answered that they were all varnished. The EP was expecting an answer referring to musical instruments and I think this story has had plenty mileage since. The reason for this answer was that, having just moved into a new house, we had just spent a long time varnishing the wooden floors. Hence this was the most recent contact with shiny things that my daughter had had. How easy it would be to misunderstand a child, even an ostensibly fluent speaker, without understanding his or her points of reference. Children are wonderful, but their concept of the world is very limited, though they don't realise this. A child soaks up ideas and knowledge indiscriminately just like a sponge soaks up any liquids. This should make us careful. But of course it doesn't.
This guy has no coherent theory on this subject AND no respect for women and girls. I feel like I'm going insane listening to him try to make a point that just doesn't make any sense. I don't understand what HE doesn't understand, you explained the placebo effect very plainly and he just steamrolled ahead over your argument! Un-fucking-believable. Thank you for your patience in doing that debate in the first place and doing these reviews of what was said in there, you're an absolute powerhouse. I hope your cats are nearby for cuddling, I'm sure you could use the fluffy support. My own cat says hi! She helped keep my blood pressure in check, 10/10 I recommend.
I second Louise's thankfulness for your patience in debating these non-thinkers in the first place. Your head won't get too big receiving our praise, I'm sure. You stand a better chance being able to continue doing it if your "battery" gets recharged with your fans' energy! Yay, Exulansic! ☮️❤️🐾
Is this going to drive me crazy again? Do I need a toblerone or a cat or something to watch this?
Both!
Meanwhile, he can't stop playing his game even for a second. He is literally incapable of living in reality.
I wonder, is there some sort of subscription service that delivers a load of bullshit to these people's houses once a week? They seem so confident and they all sound the same. And they're all so confident that they are 100% right all the time. I mean, they have to be getting fuel from somewhere.
And yes, at the halfway point it is apparent to me that I need a cat, or a very large bar of chocolate to sit through this with my blood pressure in check.
Cults!!!!
Listening to this song has helped rebalance me when feeling strongly. Maybe it will help you too:
https://open.spotify.com/track/0bJAluvgnnFEllzWZAZ8MW?si=d62c3f647c4f44d1
its called Tu Pa'que Te Vas by 3BallMTY with Jotdog. Its in spanish, but the mood is spot on
It's really hard to listen to him. I stopped allowing this kind of man into my life about 12 years ago, when I met my now-husband and realized I didn't have to put up with people who do not respect me enough to even try to see my side of an argument.
He is not trying. He is not giving you any room. He is not giving you any respect and he's not fighting fair.
Now, it does seem to me that people who play these first-person shooter games never do fight fair. That much seems clear. I don't know if that's because they've been conditioned by this kind of combative game to see every interaction as a kill-or-be-killed contest or if the reason they like these games is because they're predisposed to see the world this way. Whichever it is, it does seem to me that there is no path to a rational discussion here. If he ever did or does allow you to have a point, it will only be because he wants to keep you around as a woman he "flirts" with. (which, in itself, is kind of nauseating.) He almost certainly has a sexual interest in Shape Shifter. We can never dismiss the influence the male sex drive exerts over a man's opinions. I would be suspicious of that and wary of his motives. And I would be careful in navigating this interaction because it does seem to me that Shape Shifter's request that you debate him is a red flag of sorts, (although I haven't identified exactly why it raises an alarm for me, it does and that aspect of the interaction hasn't stopped itching at me since the first part of this debate.
Please be careful.
Wise woman words of wisdom! I would definitely gift you with a Toblerone right now if I could. ❤️ Hope you have a kitty to hug.
I couldn’t watch all of the first video. He reminds me of vaush and I can’t listen to him either.
Vaush is utterly sickening. Misogyny is to Vaush and Gunter as water is to fish.
Video games and online porn have ruined a generation of men. Violence, sex, violent sex and winning at any cost...No wonder we turn away from them.
Maybe both!
I recommend a cat, I'm watching this with mine on my lap.
His playing a game while talking to you gives no legitimacy to anything he says. He is incredibly ignorant. He is dangerous.
I know!! So disrespectful. But its great for her to point out the flaws in his arguments. He is like a parrot trained to say words to get a reward, but with less understanding and self awareness than the bird
as the owner of 12 parrots I can assure you everyone of them is smarter than that turkey gobbler...
As the trans phenomenon as a whole is a product of extreme dissociation enabled by the Internet, it makes sense that its champion would be a semi-conscious gamer guy.
You could not have been more poignant than that statement, Tres Bla!
It's like texting while having a meal with someone--utterly disrespectful.
Part 2 already? Its like a 2nd Xmas for this Jew
Bro has never talked to an actual child omfg
I actually really appreciated watching this. I think his arguments are points that many of us would be on the receiving end of if engaged in a conversation about the trans issue, so your counter arguments show us how we can respond in turn. Thank you for doing this!
True. Exulansic models the best way to combat these stupid but sadly commonly believed talking points
Listening to this mental midget argue with you using stupid talking points, cutting you off, and condescending to you makes my blood boil. You run circles around him intellectually, but I'm sure he doesn't realize it.
I think he might realize it and as a result, he’s getting testier by the second!
Maybe on some level. But not consciously.
That's what gets to me. It's like talking to a stuffed bear. Eventually, you just want to start punching the bear.
"We see this over and over again in the literature..." Bullshit has he read any literature. He feels like he knows the science because he's spent years hearing trans stories on Twitter. He never references a study, comes up with a specific example or makes a single point that isn't about the neublous feelings of some nebulous group of people that he never offers one example of.
Who is this creature playing games in mom’s basement? I know that I’m repeating myself but it’s important- my son will be 25 this year. I raised a very effeminate boy who played with dolls and loved his nails painted pink. Has this twit ever met a girl who likes her hair short and loves baseball? Or a boy like my son? I doubt it. He’s going along with the party line blah, blah, blah and giving absolutely no thought to any of Exulansic’s points. This fight is all about misogyny and homophobia and allowing children to be themselves!!! No one is born in the wrong body... thanks for letting me vent!
He says his partner identifies as non binary.
Aha, he’s a member of the cult! Does having a “non binary” partner mean that he’s really a gay man? And while I’m on the subject, can someone please tell me what non binary really means? Is it as simple as some days I “feel “ feminine and some days I “feel “ masculine? Whatever any of that means??? Remember the song- “feelings, nothing more than feelings...”
Nonbinary is like, im better than you, you basic bitch!
😂😂❤️
Bi-Nannas.
You clever girl!!!😂❤️
Bad Time. I vote bad news, bad time. ☮️❤️🐾
He is quite simply a gasbagging fool.
He has no conceptual understanding of psychological child devp at all. The children he refers to are as much a figment of his imagination as the possibility of changing sex.
He should never be allowed within 500 metres of any real child under 16, he's a literal danger.
One of the things I really like that you do is emphasize how bad depression and anxiety really is and how it affects a person. As someone whose been mentally Ill for a very long time it’s refreshing to hear you speak on how my struggles are real, they matter, and that it is a disability. Depression really can change memories & memory recall. I have to do excersizes that stimulate my brain and help me recall information because when I’m unstable I really can’t remember anything but the pain & how much I want to escape it.
I literally need to force myself to remember I have people who care about me by writing their names down. When I am suicidally depressed I forget I have a mom. A dad. A brother, a family.
I really relate to this. These folx act like they care about mentally ill people but they seem more interested in pretending there's no illness and therefore no implications of illness. They fear judgment and want control. My father had a brain injury when I was a child. I'm beyond capable of loving a person and not judging the person while simultaneously judging the implications of the reality of a loved one's limitations constantly for everyone's well being. Trans activists are ableist though in my experience. They really do not want to think about people with diminished capacity and what kind of support needs they have including the need to be protected from predatory medical providers and others who would take advantage of their impaired judgment whether the impairment is temporary as in anxiety and depression or permanent as in an injury. Although even a permanent injury is treatable and judgment can improve with treatment. But treating such an injury like I do for a living requires being able to model the person's deficits and confront them and that's not something that a lot of people want to be acceptable. We're just supposed to feel like we're ableist if we recognize that another person is so ill they want things that a healthy person simply would not want due to understanding how bad it would end up. We're supposed to believe it's just a difference in preference to not want some guy to Jack O'Lantern your vagina so that you could stand to pee because you believe that this will prevent hate crime. Like what about that train of logic says I'm mentally well enough to consent to have my labia sewn together?
That’s what I love about your content. It’s not pessimistic, it’s realistic. TRAs definitely are ableists, and the whole mental health acceptance movement feels that way too. I mean, we shouldn’t judge people who are mentally ill. But it’s not something you should want to be, and it’s also “not a big deal” either. People who are mentally Ill need real psychological help, potentially use of medication like I do. It’s not a funny, quirky thing. It gets ugly, real ugly. Depression takes you to places most wouldn’t understand unless they also suffered.
Thank you, Exulansic.
Grunter is a piece of shit not fit to be stuck to the sole of your shoe.
No idea who this guy is, but I could only make it 50% of the way through this because of how much he interrupts you. You let him waffle on saying things like he 'sees no problem' with children being treated as the opposite sex, but he can't even let you finish an answer to his stupid statements. The bottom line is, he doesn't care - it's literally not his problem so he doesn't care. No idea who he is, not saying he's a bad person or generally cruel, but gender ideology is not going to impact him at all, as a straight white man, so what.
To assess whether child has an understanding of something, the assessor should have a deep understanding of the child's level of fluency in the language and their experience of life.
An example of this: before my daughter started school, because she was only just four years old, the educational psychologist had to assess her readiness. There were lots of tests - identifying pictures of things etc. Then we came to identifying a commonality of a grouping. We got to pictures of a piano, a violin and a clarsach (a small folk harp which is common here). She looked and immediately answered that they were all varnished. The EP was expecting an answer referring to musical instruments and I think this story has had plenty mileage since. The reason for this answer was that, having just moved into a new house, we had just spent a long time varnishing the wooden floors. Hence this was the most recent contact with shiny things that my daughter had had. How easy it would be to misunderstand a child, even an ostensibly fluent speaker, without understanding his or her points of reference. Children are wonderful, but their concept of the world is very limited, though they don't realise this. A child soaks up ideas and knowledge indiscriminately just like a sponge soaks up any liquids. This should make us careful. But of course it doesn't.
I can’t watch. He can’t even pause his video game. Disrespectful.
This guy has no coherent theory on this subject AND no respect for women and girls. I feel like I'm going insane listening to him try to make a point that just doesn't make any sense. I don't understand what HE doesn't understand, you explained the placebo effect very plainly and he just steamrolled ahead over your argument! Un-fucking-believable. Thank you for your patience in doing that debate in the first place and doing these reviews of what was said in there, you're an absolute powerhouse. I hope your cats are nearby for cuddling, I'm sure you could use the fluffy support. My own cat says hi! She helped keep my blood pressure in check, 10/10 I recommend.
Again, "Never argue with a fool."
I second Louise's thankfulness for your patience in debating these non-thinkers in the first place. Your head won't get too big receiving our praise, I'm sure. You stand a better chance being able to continue doing it if your "battery" gets recharged with your fans' energy! Yay, Exulansic! ☮️❤️🐾
👏👏❤️