Most of us want to do the right thing, and compassion is a good thing to have. Compassion, for me, stops when I see the harm agps do to wife/partner and children. While some may have some kind of brain injury, I don't think all of them do, and they must be contained away from those they would harm. Lots of info to unpack in this one. Have to think about this. My bottom line would be if you harm others you must be stopped
Left out of this picture is ENTITLEMENT. Males are raised to feel entitled to do whatever they please, whenever they please, to whomever they please. And not having enough to do is a huge contributor to this sort of self-indulgent nonsense.
Nothing makes sense until you think about entitlement. As a man said to me, "I don't feel entitled," but his not feeling entitled did not mean that he was not entitled and was not raised to be entitled. I'm too old for airy-fairy explanations for men's narcissistic behavior.
It is male entitlement, men exercising their privilege to disregard women's rights and invade their spaces--it is misogynist bullying of the worst kind and women will not put up w/ their perverse displays of their pathology.
he would have no idea what 'feeling entitled' or 'feeling privileged' would be, just as he has no idea what it feels like to be female. for him to rely on his subjective perceptions, which i find is a characteristic of over entitled overconfident men, is faulty reality testing. btw that's why it's mostly males who drive dangerously and take other risks. they're just relying on feelings and desires--entirely, ludicrously imperfect measures of reality.
I would say it's important for their carers, medical and health personnel to have compassion, but the everyday woman's job is not to have compassion for those that hurt us. It's important that we think of ourselves first and not attempt to place ourselves as some holy person who's above such petty considerations as self-preservation. I don't know how to say this in a "nice" way because it's just not that important to be "nice" as it is to be real and the truth is, focusing on having compassion for such disrespectful misogynistic behavior and the reasons behind it is not in OUR interest, and it's something I feel is pushed on women unfairly, against our own mental health.
Too much 'compassion' and 'kindness' from women coupled w/ the devious stealthy lobbying by the men pushing to legalize and normalize these men's deviant -- and at times dangerous behavior-- has brought us to where we are now. Women now have to fight again for their rights and try to claw back those they have lost b/c of those who let these men and their sexual fetishes and paraphilias into the public sphere. It is not women's burden to have compassion for or to discern the cause or etiology of the behavior of these domineering men w/ their 'erotic fixations' who have not one whit of concern for women's rights and their boundaries.
Women's (and all others') concerns are properly for our rights and our protection and the protection of children. We have seen that these men have no respect for women's rights or their boundaries and we must not as a society in our zeal to be 'compassionate' lose compassion for women who are the most affected by the deviant and sometimes aggressive behavior of these domineering men and their colonizing of women's sex-class. We only need to look at what has happened whenever women speak out about protecting their rights and their boundaries to understand who these men are and how dangerous they can be.
These AGP men-in-skirts need to keep the public display of their paraphilic arousal at home and out of the public sphere and out of women's spaces. Fundamentally women cannot allow men into their sex-class b/c of the fantasy of so-called gender identity. 'Gender identity' and the material reality of sex are inherently in conflict and when 'gender identity' is recognized it supplants the sex-based rights and opportunities of women and girls and their right to safeguarding, privacy, and dignity in single-sex spaces. (And it also supplants the rights of LGBs whose rights are also sex-based).
Women can't afford to 'be kind' when it comes to their rights and safety re these domineering, deviant, and misogynist men b/c women, as we have seen, will be the losers if we cede one inch of ground to them.
In my opinion, it is not an overabundance of compassion that has gotten us to this point, but a lack of discernment. Most people who appear "compassionate" towards these offenders are not actually, just too lazy to recruit any critical thinking or to challenge the status quo. Compassion is a crucial part of gaining understanding, and we can't just legislate this problem away. How do we deal with all the mentally ill people in our society if we don't have some compassion for their condition? I'm compassionate, but I'm also enraged, disgusted, and motivated to take any actions necessary to defend the rights of women and children.
What about becoming AGP as a result of watching porn? It is a thing cos the Transmaxxing incels recommend it as a way to transition: "Becoming MtF transsexual is a way better option than being involuntarily celibate as a male, if you do
not have autogynephilia as an incel you can try to induce it. You can watch porn and imagine yourself
as the female, there is also female POV porn you can try."
Im not sure I can have compassion for this people 😬
Yup. I’m 100% convinced that Putin used “hypno sissy porn” as a weapon to destroy liberal Western society. It worked, too.
The talk of viruses really freaks me out because Covid infects the brain 100% of the time and by now over 95% of the human population is believed to have had Covid at least once (even if it was an asymptomatic infection). Covid definitely can increase risk-taking behaviors and affect the ability to regulate emotions. What if it supercharges autogynophilia and other paraphilias too? Ugh.
Meanwhile the Earth is headed towards collapse faster than ever anticipated by even the direst models. I never quite know where to put my energy or attention these days.
lol it's always Putin. Cmon, think rationally. Why on earth would Putin benefit from the collapse of the West. Trans madness is rampant in decadent Israel, with whom Putin does lots and lots of business, Israeli land speculators are making out like bandits from the war in Ukraine (I don't support Zelensky either).
This China bad, Russia bad, myopic way of looking at the world shouldn't hold water for critical thinking, rational adults.
I really appreciate your perspective here. Having compassion is not at odds with women defending ourselves and our children. Compassion is necessary to cultivate in order to take actions that are grounded and effective, instead of being reactionary and adding to the chaos of this situation. Compassion for those who have fallen to the trans ideology does not mean I condone their actions or let down my guard. It just means not defaulting to dehumanizing others, and seeking to more fully understand why they have become the way that they are. How else can we rehabilitate our society?
I worked in criminal defense law for a time and have great compassion for a number of them. Media like to portray them all as evil geniuses but the reality is most are feckless and fall into a life of crime by making bad associations, or the product of terrible home environments or even some who were damaged by environmental factors like being exposed to lead paint or malnutrition. But I've also worked with the very affluent and have found a carelessness towards other people that is shocking in those raised with the best of everything. I try not to get taken advantage of because I'd rather we all get along but have developed a level of ruthlessness towards natural predators and those who actively choose to hurt others for whatever reason.
“Indeed, it is hard to imagine a more dramatic example of a disturbed sense of self than for a person who has lived an outwardly successful life as a man to believe that he genuinely is, ought to be, or would be happier living as a woman.”
Dr. Anne Lawrence, PhD, “Shame and Narcissistic Rage in Autogynephilic Transsexualism”
We better don‘t give them an excuse like“ I have a parasite organism in me, I can‘t help it, I have to expose my fetish to the world and make it priority nr1. There‘s no cure. We AGPs are victims and deserve compassion.“🙈NOO!!
Many of us gave the gender people benefit of the doubt in the beginning and they took advantage because that's what fucked up people do. We are rightfully offended.
Compassion for these individuals is something I struggle with as I am very angry at them but I believe if we give up our compassion we lose our humanity. One can have compassion for someone and still be upset by their actions and want to see that they face consequences for their attitudes and behavior. Somewhere along the way progressives began to equate compassion with abdication of responsibility.
Mine may be an unpopular comment , so be it. Many toxins are readily taken up by a baby's brain from the many many vaccines they are given so shortly after birth. In America the number us far greater , but UK sadly us catching up. Yes I know that correlation does not necessarily mean causation, however autism has risen along with the sheer amount of vaccine injections given to our previous babies and young children . Water is not pure , air is polluted, there are many factors to the toxic load in humans. Yes I believe in compassion and that compassion does not mean consent.
Most people want to do the right thing. Given a path to follow, most people will find reasons to tell themselves its the right path to follow.
Too hard! I can't go there.
Most of us want to do the right thing, and compassion is a good thing to have. Compassion, for me, stops when I see the harm agps do to wife/partner and children. While some may have some kind of brain injury, I don't think all of them do, and they must be contained away from those they would harm. Lots of info to unpack in this one. Have to think about this. My bottom line would be if you harm others you must be stopped
I totally agree with you 💯
These people mostly are menaces to society.
However laws seem to be in place to allow their behavior to terrorize others.
Left out of this picture is ENTITLEMENT. Males are raised to feel entitled to do whatever they please, whenever they please, to whomever they please. And not having enough to do is a huge contributor to this sort of self-indulgent nonsense.
Nothing makes sense until you think about entitlement. As a man said to me, "I don't feel entitled," but his not feeling entitled did not mean that he was not entitled and was not raised to be entitled. I'm too old for airy-fairy explanations for men's narcissistic behavior.
It is male entitlement, men exercising their privilege to disregard women's rights and invade their spaces--it is misogynist bullying of the worst kind and women will not put up w/ their perverse displays of their pathology.
he would have no idea what 'feeling entitled' or 'feeling privileged' would be, just as he has no idea what it feels like to be female. for him to rely on his subjective perceptions, which i find is a characteristic of over entitled overconfident men, is faulty reality testing. btw that's why it's mostly males who drive dangerously and take other risks. they're just relying on feelings and desires--entirely, ludicrously imperfect measures of reality.
I would say it's important for their carers, medical and health personnel to have compassion, but the everyday woman's job is not to have compassion for those that hurt us. It's important that we think of ourselves first and not attempt to place ourselves as some holy person who's above such petty considerations as self-preservation. I don't know how to say this in a "nice" way because it's just not that important to be "nice" as it is to be real and the truth is, focusing on having compassion for such disrespectful misogynistic behavior and the reasons behind it is not in OUR interest, and it's something I feel is pushed on women unfairly, against our own mental health.
Too much 'compassion' and 'kindness' from women coupled w/ the devious stealthy lobbying by the men pushing to legalize and normalize these men's deviant -- and at times dangerous behavior-- has brought us to where we are now. Women now have to fight again for their rights and try to claw back those they have lost b/c of those who let these men and their sexual fetishes and paraphilias into the public sphere. It is not women's burden to have compassion for or to discern the cause or etiology of the behavior of these domineering men w/ their 'erotic fixations' who have not one whit of concern for women's rights and their boundaries.
Women's (and all others') concerns are properly for our rights and our protection and the protection of children. We have seen that these men have no respect for women's rights or their boundaries and we must not as a society in our zeal to be 'compassionate' lose compassion for women who are the most affected by the deviant and sometimes aggressive behavior of these domineering men and their colonizing of women's sex-class. We only need to look at what has happened whenever women speak out about protecting their rights and their boundaries to understand who these men are and how dangerous they can be.
These AGP men-in-skirts need to keep the public display of their paraphilic arousal at home and out of the public sphere and out of women's spaces. Fundamentally women cannot allow men into their sex-class b/c of the fantasy of so-called gender identity. 'Gender identity' and the material reality of sex are inherently in conflict and when 'gender identity' is recognized it supplants the sex-based rights and opportunities of women and girls and their right to safeguarding, privacy, and dignity in single-sex spaces. (And it also supplants the rights of LGBs whose rights are also sex-based).
Women can't afford to 'be kind' when it comes to their rights and safety re these domineering, deviant, and misogynist men b/c women, as we have seen, will be the losers if we cede one inch of ground to them.
In my opinion, it is not an overabundance of compassion that has gotten us to this point, but a lack of discernment. Most people who appear "compassionate" towards these offenders are not actually, just too lazy to recruit any critical thinking or to challenge the status quo. Compassion is a crucial part of gaining understanding, and we can't just legislate this problem away. How do we deal with all the mentally ill people in our society if we don't have some compassion for their condition? I'm compassionate, but I'm also enraged, disgusted, and motivated to take any actions necessary to defend the rights of women and children.
I admit that until last year I saw plenty of warning signs but really just hadn't bothered to connect the dots😕
"Women can't afford to be kind when it comes to their rights"
That statement sums it up entirely ‼️
And I do agree 💯
Great Discussion.
This panel conversation was really eye-opening.
I'd like to hear the entire video.
The Lady with the white sweater made statements that laid bare that AGP men want to be women and control women.
🔥 I have little to NO sympathy for these people, because their behavior renders others/me to protect themselves and their family from them.
What about becoming AGP as a result of watching porn? It is a thing cos the Transmaxxing incels recommend it as a way to transition: "Becoming MtF transsexual is a way better option than being involuntarily celibate as a male, if you do
not have autogynephilia as an incel you can try to induce it. You can watch porn and imagine yourself
as the female, there is also female POV porn you can try."
Im not sure I can have compassion for this people 😬
Yup. I’m 100% convinced that Putin used “hypno sissy porn” as a weapon to destroy liberal Western society. It worked, too.
The talk of viruses really freaks me out because Covid infects the brain 100% of the time and by now over 95% of the human population is believed to have had Covid at least once (even if it was an asymptomatic infection). Covid definitely can increase risk-taking behaviors and affect the ability to regulate emotions. What if it supercharges autogynophilia and other paraphilias too? Ugh.
Meanwhile the Earth is headed towards collapse faster than ever anticipated by even the direst models. I never quite know where to put my energy or attention these days.
lol it's always Putin. Cmon, think rationally. Why on earth would Putin benefit from the collapse of the West. Trans madness is rampant in decadent Israel, with whom Putin does lots and lots of business, Israeli land speculators are making out like bandits from the war in Ukraine (I don't support Zelensky either).
This China bad, Russia bad, myopic way of looking at the world shouldn't hold water for critical thinking, rational adults.
75% of americans i think. this is by antibody testing, not clinical sx.
there's no evidence of Putin's or virus involvement here.
I really appreciate your perspective here. Having compassion is not at odds with women defending ourselves and our children. Compassion is necessary to cultivate in order to take actions that are grounded and effective, instead of being reactionary and adding to the chaos of this situation. Compassion for those who have fallen to the trans ideology does not mean I condone their actions or let down my guard. It just means not defaulting to dehumanizing others, and seeking to more fully understand why they have become the way that they are. How else can we rehabilitate our society?
I worked in criminal defense law for a time and have great compassion for a number of them. Media like to portray them all as evil geniuses but the reality is most are feckless and fall into a life of crime by making bad associations, or the product of terrible home environments or even some who were damaged by environmental factors like being exposed to lead paint or malnutrition. But I've also worked with the very affluent and have found a carelessness towards other people that is shocking in those raised with the best of everything. I try not to get taken advantage of because I'd rather we all get along but have developed a level of ruthlessness towards natural predators and those who actively choose to hurt others for whatever reason.
“Indeed, it is hard to imagine a more dramatic example of a disturbed sense of self than for a person who has lived an outwardly successful life as a man to believe that he genuinely is, ought to be, or would be happier living as a woman.”
Dr. Anne Lawrence, PhD, “Shame and Narcissistic Rage in Autogynephilic Transsexualism”
We better don‘t give them an excuse like“ I have a parasite organism in me, I can‘t help it, I have to expose my fetish to the world and make it priority nr1. There‘s no cure. We AGPs are victims and deserve compassion.“🙈NOO!!
Agree to disagree. Some people do not want to do good, and truely want to cause harm.
Or don't give a crap if anyone else suffers☹️
Correct, i was so focused on the abusers that i forgot about the enablers.
i am cmv negative! that’s why they always put my blood in the little ketchup packets ☺️for the babies
Many of us gave the gender people benefit of the doubt in the beginning and they took advantage because that's what fucked up people do. We are rightfully offended.
Compassion for these individuals is something I struggle with as I am very angry at them but I believe if we give up our compassion we lose our humanity. One can have compassion for someone and still be upset by their actions and want to see that they face consequences for their attitudes and behavior. Somewhere along the way progressives began to equate compassion with abdication of responsibility.
My husband got HSE. He’s not AGP, but he’s a mess, poor man. (Our son was 9 when it happened; he’s now 25.)
Mine may be an unpopular comment , so be it. Many toxins are readily taken up by a baby's brain from the many many vaccines they are given so shortly after birth. In America the number us far greater , but UK sadly us catching up. Yes I know that correlation does not necessarily mean causation, however autism has risen along with the sheer amount of vaccine injections given to our previous babies and young children . Water is not pure , air is polluted, there are many factors to the toxic load in humans. Yes I believe in compassion and that compassion does not mean consent.
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Love is the answer
The Man Behind The Curtain doesn’t want us to know that, he has been selling us the idea of Love this whole time